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Posted 12/7/18 , edited 12/7/18
I'm not giving up my PS because xbox sucks, not to mention it's worst enough I have to endure the pointless software in Microsoft, who owns xbox by the way. I have nothing against Sony, be thankful, Funimation could have gone belly up... if you're that upset just join Funimation, it's free. they are still partners with Hulu. and no not ALL cartoons have been pulled, but a few have yes.
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Posted 12/9/18 , edited 12/9/18
Sorry but effectively taking away anime I was already paying for... then trying to sell them to me on a different service isn't going to make me want to give them money. I'll just watch the shows Crunchyroll still offers here, and just KissAnime the ones Sony yanked.

And again it's not the only reason I'm bailing on Sony consoles. They just put out some cheaply made stuff. My original 360 controllers from 2005 still work perfectly. I've replaced more PS4 controllers already than I even care to think about. Sony is money hungry as all hell. They mass product crap that breaks so they can sell more crap to replace it. Now they are trying to buy out/censor my damn anime so they can sell it back to me a second time? Fuck them.

And no Nintendo isn't even an option. Those things are just toys. Phones these days have more under the hood than a Switch. Nintendo hasn't put out anything console wise worth a look since the SNES and "arguabley" for a brief period on the N64 because Sony/Microsoft left them in the dust. Heck even the Dreamcast was a better product.
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Posted 12/9/18 , edited 12/9/18

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Sorry but effectively taking away anime I was already paying for... then trying to sell them to me on a different service isn't going to make me want to give them money. I'll just watch the shows Crunchyroll still offers here, and just KissAnime the ones Sony yanked.

And again it's not the only reason I'm bailing on Sony consoles. They just put out some cheaply made stuff. My original 360 controllers from 2005 still work perfectly. I've replaced more PS4 controllers already than I even care to think about. Sony is money hungry as all hell. They mass product crap that breaks so they can sell more crap to replace it. Now they are trying to buy out/censor my damn anime so they can sell it back to me a second time? Fuck them.

And no Nintendo isn't even an option. Those things are just toys. Phones these days have more under the hood than a Switch. Nintendo hasn't put out anything console wise worth a look since the SNES and "arguabley" for a brief period on the N64 because Sony/Microsoft left them in the dust. Heck even the Dreamcast was a better product.


To be fair, nobody has ever bought an Nintendo console for high end graphics and hardware, it's all about the unique games.
Nintendo is one of the last companies where if I pay full price for a game I actually feel like I'm getting my money's worth.
Yeah, best to do what some of us older gamers did after the AAA and console nickel and diming of current Gen,
pick up a good PC with a halfway decent graphics card, a USB extender so you can use 4 Xbox 360 controllers if you want to, an HDMI cable to turn it essentially into a console experience and call it a day.
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Posted 12/9/18 , edited 12/9/18
it's just as simple as not using their products and obtaining your entertainment elsewhere

no one has to use anything they make. sony isnt some almighty entity that makes it impossible to not use them


i like the one x btw. though the system is in the minority it does its job well
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Posted 12/9/18 , edited 12/10/18
Frankly none of those unique games fall in my area of interest. I also can't stand motion controls.
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Posted 12/10/18 , edited 12/10/18
No.

CTR is being remastered.

Theres no going back
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Posted 18 days ago , edited 18 days ago
Sony pictures who now owns Funimation was the once who decided to drop their CR partnership as they want to make a global anime/streaming brand. Playstation is made by Sony interactive, they are diffrant companies under the Sony Corporation.

If you want to punish Sony for this, then it would make more sense to avoid using Funimation and whatever streaming service they plan on making. As that way you're voting with your wallet against the people who made the choice to back down out of this partnership.

Also let's not forget that Sony music still owns Aniplex who have loads of content on Crunchyroll without any plans to back down.

If you want to punish Sony's playstation arm, then at least do it for the right reason. That being their censorship!
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Posted 18 days ago , edited 17 days ago
Plus Sony is censoring several Japanese games where as Xbox and Nintendo are not. I think Steam is not also. Only lame Sony is. Sony going SJW.
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Plus Sony is censoring several Japanese games where as Xbox and Nintendo are not. I think Steam is not also. Only lame Sony is. Sony going SJW.


The state of Steam's guidelines for riskier content are a long standing mess neither Valve nor developers have been able to figure out so far. Steam doesn't censor anything itself because it's not a publisher it's just a storefront. Nintendo has historically exercised considerable control over who and what gets on it's platforms so I find it doubtful that Nintendo of all companies has suddenly decided to throw open the floodgates. Dunno about the state of X-Box as I don't care for it.

As for Sony, replace "SJW" with "Money" and you'd have a more accurate statement. Censorship on consoles tends to have little do with puritanism and everything to do with money. Much like getting a PG-13 rating on your movie can be considerably more profitable than an R rating. Larger market, more money.

Besides, how many tons of anime series are there that are based on hentai games? Obviously, the anime adaptions don't include the hardcore sex scenes and thus neither do the console versions. Because money.


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MrAnimeSK wrote:
Plus Sony is censoring several Japanese games where as Xbox and Nintendo are not. I think Steam is not also. Only lame Sony is. Sony going SJW.


The state of Steam's guidelines for riskier content are a long standing mess neither Valve nor developers have been able to figure out so far. Steam doesn't censor anything itself because it's not a publisher it's just a storefront. Nintendo has historically exercised considerable control over who and what gets on it's platforms so I find it doubtful that Nintendo of all companies has suddenly decided to throw open the floodgates. Dunno about the state of X-Box as I don't care for it.

As for Sony, replace "SJW" with "Money" and you'd have a more accurate statement. Censorship on consoles tends to have little do with puritanism and everything to do with money. Much like getting a PG-13 rating on your movie can be considerably more profitable than an R rating. Larger market, more money.

Besides, how many tons of anime series are there that are based on hentai games? Obviously, the anime adaptions don't include the hardcore sex scenes and thus neither do the console versions. Because money.




Iam not talking about hentai games, i mean Japanese games that include things like up skirts and removal of clothing or touching of female characters, etc. Nintendo used to be big on censorship, but not anymore it would seem.
I cant remember the specific game titles but its Sony only doing it.
Going feminist and "progressive: i guess.
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Iam not talking about hentai games, i mean Japanese games that include things like up skirts and removal of clothing or touching of female characters, etc. Nintendo used to be big on censorship, but not anymore it would seem.
I cant remember the specific game titles but its Sony only doing it.
Going feminist and "progressive: i guess.


I vaguely recall seeing an article on the absurdity of some 3DS girl massaging but it isn't really the norm for Nintendo and I'd bet a number of things were changed in the game regardless to make it more palatable to western audiences.

Also, again, this is about money. I know you have some weird thing where SJW's are secretly behind every negative in your life but Sony doesn't give a rat's ass about being progressive or feminist. It cares about trying to please America's puritan sensibilities for maximum sales potential. Which also have nothing to do with feminism or progressives.

America lost it's fucking mind over Janet Jackson's nipple remember. Fox News even lost it's shit over the original Mass Effect because an M rated game had half a blue alien butt cheek in it. They routinely lose their minds over the very idea of exposed breasts.

Morale panic is as American as apple pie.

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A lot of industry insiders, including some directors comming out publicly, have said that Sony and other Big Anime publishers are refusing to work with any anime which has fan service not pertinent to the plot. Explains a lot about the last season of DxD, doesn't it? And this hasn't been happening recently, but began slowly as far back as 6 years ago (winter season 2013). Which may explain a lot about popular shows just vanishing without a trace. Like Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero as an example. Yes, I am only speculating on individual titles, but the change in tone has been drastic across the industry.
Any entertainment with clear focus at male audiences is to be ignored, canceled, or otherwise reduced, in favor of shows more suitable for female audiences. Which isn't bad, but ironically we've lost the best female lead powerhouses in Animedom. So in their attempt to make everyone happy, companies demonstrate the top brass has no idea what their audiences want. Surprisingly Crunchyroll has resisted the most, where as Funimation had cut more than half of their Fan Service catalogue about couple of years before the Funy/Crunchy merger. Don't get me wrong. The fact we pay full Netflix sized streaming fee but get 99% censored streams isn't a heroic resistance, but i'll support it way more than complete capitulation. Crunchy din't get comfy, I saw the crap you are producing, not impressed. Give me a laugh good animation and story, tits I can get anywhere, but you tried to push crap. Get it over with and show me somethin good. I can get my politics on twitter for free.
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A lot of industry insiders, including some directors comming out publicly, have said that Sony and other Big Anime publishers are refusing to work with any anime which has fan service not pertinent to the plot. Explains a lot about the last season of DxD, doesn't it? And this hasn't been happening recently, but began slowly as far back as 6 years ago (winter season 2013). Which may explain a lot about popular shows just vanishing without a trace. Like Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero as an example. Yes, I am only speculating on individual titles, but the change in tone has been drastic across the industry.
Any entertainment with clear focus at male audiences is to be ignored, canceled, or otherwise reduced, in favor of shows more suitable for female audiences. Which isn't bad, but ironically we've lost the best female lead powerhouses in Animedom. So in their attempt to make everyone happy, companies demonstrate the top brass has no idea what their audiences want. Surprisingly Crunchyroll has resisted the most, where as Funimation had cut more than half of their Fan Service catalogue about couple of years before the Funy/Crunchy merger. Don't get me wrong. The fact we pay full Netflix sized streaming fee but get 99% censored streams isn't a heroic resistance, but i'll support it way more than complete capitulation. Crunchy din't get comfy, I saw the crap you are producing, not impressed. Give me a laugh good animation and story, tits I can get anywhere, but you tried to push crap. Get it over with and show me somethin good. I can get my politics on twitter for free.
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A lot of industry insiders, including some directors comming out publicly, have said that Sony and other Big Anime publishers are refusing to work with any anime which has fan service not pertinent to the plot. Explains a lot about the last season of DxD, doesn't it? And this hasn't been happening recently, but began slowly as far back as 6 years ago (winter season 2013). Which may explain a lot about popular shows just vanishing without a trace. Like Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero as an example. Yes, I am only speculating on individual titles, but the change in tone has been drastic across the industry.


Alternatively, you think because you like it, it must be popular. But Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero sucked and as a result had poor sales figures in Japan. No one's going to keep making a show that loses money. The anime industry is cut throat and most money is made on disc sales, merchandise and promoting the original source material if any.



dhristo1 wrote:Any entertainment with clear focus at male audiences is to be ignored, canceled, or otherwise reduced, in favor of shows more suitable for female audiences.


Except, you know, not as those shows are the most financially successful in all of Japan. However, you seem to be mistaking "male oriented" with "tits" so.



dhristo1 wrote:So in their attempt to make everyone happy, companies demonstrate the top brass has no idea what their audiences want.


To be blunt, Japan really doesn't care what western audiences want one way or another.



dhristo1 wrote:Surprisingly Crunchyroll has resisted the most, where as Funimation had cut more than half of their Fan Service catalogue about couple of years before the Funy/Crunchy merger.


"Cut" or just didn't renew the licenses because the streaming figures were under performing?




dhristo1 wrote:Don't get me wrong. The fact we pay full Netflix sized streaming fee but get 99% censored streams isn't a heroic resistance, but i'll support it way more than complete capitulation.


CR gets broadcast rights. We're watching the shows as they're originally broadcast on Japanese TV. Japan has strict censorship laws and the anime industry capitalizes on it by getting you to buy the blurays. Which is where the real money is.



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Crunchy din't get comfy, I saw the crap you are producing, not impressed. Give me a laugh good animation and story, tits I can get anywhere, but you tried to push crap. Get it over with and show me somethin good. I can get my politics on twitter for free.


This may come as a shock but corporations are motivated entirely by profit. Your or anyone else's Twitter politics make no difference to them unless it has a demonstrable effect on their bottom line.

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Alternatively, you think because you like it, it must be popular. But Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero sucked and as a result had poor sales figures in Japan. No one's going to keep making a show that loses money. The anime industry is cut throat and most money is made on disc sales, merchandise and promoting the original source material if any.


Aesthetica has a very close following. Personally, I could take it or leave it. It's sales tanked when the writer of the manga moved on. The manga is done, no more show. See, I put the bait in to see who is there to take it, I specifically said that this isn't about individual titles, but what industry insiders have said and done.


Except, you know, not as those shows are the most financially successful in all of Japan. However, you seem to be mistaking "male oriented" with "tits" so.


Nope. You are making the mistake of assuming to know what I mean other than what I said. I said "oriented towards a male audience." I didn't say they are removing tits, or even sexually charged shows. But very specifically, those oriented towards men.


This may come as a shock but corporations are motivated entirely by profit. Your or anyone else's Twitter politics make no difference to them unless it has a demonstrable effect on their bottom line.


Oh, but they do. Regardless of the bottom line effect.
Also, I'm arguing against politics in anime, not for it. So any politics in anime are a nuisance to me, even if I agree with them. I have CNN and MSNBC, I don't need Crunchy for politics.

I'm not going to argue with you simply because the rest of the arguments are nonsensical. I just wanted to clarify some of my points for other readers.
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