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It is common logic that anything you climb up is connected to the ground. It's something things on the ground don't think about but we instinctively know.
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It is common logic that anything you climb up is connected to the ground. It's something things on the ground don't think about but we instinctively know.


No you can climb up a ladder while it is connected to a plane in the air.
You can climb up the side of a plane while it is in the air. It isn't necessarily common logic more in a majority of cases
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It was said that Lilith is the counter part to Lucifer. Lucifer is the reason behind God.


There is no evidence to Lilith existing nor is Lucifer the reason behind God. Saying Lucifer is the reason behind God would a) undermine the reason for God banishing Satan down to hell and why he was a former angel of God in the first place and b) Undermine Judaism, Islam and Christianity as then God would then not be the first thing in existence making any argument of Lilith or Lucifer guarding the gates of heaven or whatever invalid.


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HeavyFry wrote:

It is common logic that anything you climb up is connected to the ground. It's something things on the ground don't think about but we instinctively know.


Oh no, my grammatical structure!
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HeavyFry wrote:

It is common logic that anything you climb up is connected to the ground. It's something things on the ground don't think about but we instinctively know.


No you can climb up a ladder while it is connected to a plane in the air.
You can climb up the side of a plane while it is in the air. It isn't necessarily common logic more in a majority of cases


Could this be the reason that envelops God? There's something to be said for undermining basics.
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You're not seeing the point. I never said God was the source of all truth and knowledge but explain to me how what I just said invalidates that. Yes God has all the answers but that does not mean that he will give everything to you while you sit on your backside all day. It doesn't mean that God is not the source of truth. Besides God is not a person. He is a divine entity or something like that. You cannot define God with mere logic.
then why are you in this thread ??


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That's kind of a valid point. You proffer that a god cannot be explained with logic as if that helps your case.


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This thread is so ridiculously off-topic at this point that it needs a new home. AnimeObserver, can you relate any of this conversation back to the OP in a direct manner?
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HeavyFry wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


AnimeObserver123 wrote:


FlyinDumpling wrote:


AnimeObserver123 wrote:

You're not seeing the point. I never said God was the source of all truth and knowledge but explain to me how what I just said invalidates that. Yes God has all the answers but that does not mean that he will give everything to you while you sit on your backside all day. It doesn't mean that God is not the source of truth. Besides God is not a person. He is a divine entity or something like that. You cannot define God with mere logic.
then why are you in this thread ??


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That's kind of a valid point. You proffer that a god cannot be explained with logic as if that helps your case.


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Seems you missed my other point
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This thread is so ridiculously off-topic at this point that it needs a new home. AnimeObserver, can you relate any of this conversation back to the OP in a direct manner?


The arguments for and against whether logic can be used in describing God

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foraslan wrote:

This thread is so ridiculously off-topic at this point that it needs a new home. AnimeObserver, can you relate any of this conversation back to the OP in a direct manner?


The arguments for and against whether logic can be used in describing God



Actually, I was talking about HeavyFry's weird story, talk about 'Lillith', etc. You and DarkSasu were off-topic, but at least I know what you were saying. Not so in this case.
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AnimeObserver123 wrote:


foraslan wrote:

This thread is so ridiculously off-topic at this point that it needs a new home. AnimeObserver, can you relate any of this conversation back to the OP in a direct manner?


The arguments for and against whether logic can be used in describing God



Actually, I was talking about HeavyFry's weird story, talk about 'Lillith', etc. You and DarkSasu were off-topic, but at least I know what you were saying. Not so in this case.


Don't even understand what he is trying to say myself to be honest
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Ask yourself, "What is the one thing that I am not?" Then think and look for what you have thought in everyone for the rest of your life. If you couple this thinking with an on and off attitude, you will learn more accurately and attentively. You will be able to see the things you don't want through your peers. Remember that we are binary life. If you tell the truth all the time, while you make sure there isn't a moment where you haven't told the truth, then try your best to always be honest in your life. What you believe will and can become a reality. If it comes true, a lie is nothing but a plan for the future. The definition of power is I am in control.
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It was said that Lilith is the counter part to Lucifer. Lucifer is the reason behind God.


There is no evidence to Lilith existing nor is Lucifer the reason behind God. Saying Lucifer is the reason behind God would a) undermine the reason for God banishing Satan down to hell and why he was a former angel of God in the first place and b) Undermine Judaism, Islam and Christianity as then God would then not be the first thing in existence making any argument of Lilith or Lucifer guarding the gates of heaven or whatever invalid.




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Well put.

If we were to consider God as an entity that describes existence, that would be like saying our bodies are a universal expression of God's word. We are then technically a universal language. If this is true, I would say there must be some kind of balancing factor. I think you know what name I would want to assign to that unknown factor.

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