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Posted 6/26/19 , edited 6/26/19

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Episode 25 (Finale)

Naofumi is getting a taste of how strong heroes that work together can be. So Naofumi fights one-on-one with Glass, while his companions take on the others and this time he knows what's super-effective as she's weak to the soul eater shield. And he is asked the question about whether he really cares about this world or not realizing just how messed up it is compared what that other world might be. So this fight ends in a stalemate as Naofumi managed to stall Glass long enough for the Wave to end with help from Lecia, who becomes Naofumi's party member. After that, he now has a base of operation becoming the lord of the demi-human village. Pretty anticlimactic that battle was, but nevertheless it's great to see just how far Naofumi has become, from an outcast to a village lord as he overcame quite a lot.

Final Thoughts

This show has a lot going for it from the characters, the animation, the soundtrack, the adventure, and most importantly the storyline as everything was clicking on all cylinders. But above all, this show does an excellent job with the drama and character development as those two things are what singlehandedly carried this show. Just about the only issues this show has is its questionable approach using rape to set things in motion as that cause quite a stir in the public eye. In any case, it was a show I would always eagerly await and it delivered. Now, it just needs to have a sequel announced as there's a lot more story to tell.

Grade: A (9/10)


Have to agree with you on all points. although for me the earlier discomfort was with the slavery and 'stockholm syndrome'. Even if that wasn't what the author intended to portray.

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I loved this first season is it perfect? No Is it better then most oh hell yeah 9/10

I mostly love how this show has exposed the massive amount of anime neck beard hair this thread had me laughing so much

all the way from "False rape accusation that is just in for shock value and never happens in the real world" all the way to "It's not following the source material 100% like every other anime does" One belly busting laugh after another


And don't forget the "Stockholm syndrome"

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Meh, NO ending for you! Now go read the books!

Seriously nothing really changed after 25 episodes except he cleared his name, so little meat on the bone of this show. I guess for most anime fans a kiss between the MC and his 10 year old animal girl is enough for them but this is going right in with Record of the Grancrest War as epically mediocre for me (and the MC and his girl went all the way in that, though no one cared because she was human). It didn't get as ridiculous as that but it never tried to become as grandiose either, choosing to stick with the harem helping their boy overcome all the idiots he was surrounded with.
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I liked the series, but the anime was a little hit or miss for me.

The way I had gone about this was that after the first episode aired, I was hooked enough to check out the web novel- which I managed to read all of in a week or two. Then I watched the rest of the anime.

After reading a lot of comments from disappointed light novel readers, I'm kind of glad that I went this route instead going for the light novel. I was able to get a little more out of the anime instead of feeling like the anime was constantly missing the mark. So instead of being like "what the hell, why didn't they show this!" I'd be more like "Oh cool, that's a new aspect from the web novel."

But there were still a lot of issues I had with this anime, mostly concerning Naofumi and his motivations. About a month ago I stumbled on this youtube video that was able to put some of my issues a little more into perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmm1awy9fui The gist of the video being that one of the biggest issues early on in the series that sets this anime apart from its source material is that Naofumi's inner dialogue isn't being shown. So everything he does comes off with way more of a happy go lucky, sunshine a rainbows vibe that didn't really fit into any other medium's iteration of his character.

That being said, I still personally quite enjoyed the first half of the season, even with this obvious issue of Naofumi not showcasing his edge. But right around the time Fitoria showed up, it felt like things were starting to be rushed a bit. Like I said earlier, I only ever read the web novel. But even with that being my only source of material it was still pretty obvious to me that the adaptation was starting to become a bit sloppier with what they were choosing to either show or omit from the story for the purpose of shaving off time.

All in all I liked it. Could have been better, but what can ya do? Will definitely watch a second season if that happens.
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My guess, if there ever was a second season, Naofumi works on trying to find a way to solve both worlds wave issues without having to kill Glass, L'Arc and Therese.
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I absolutely loved this series and the ending, not sure why everyone is upset about it. Kinda strikes me as LN readers mad that the LN wasn't adapted perfectly...but to be fair it's impossible to adapt something from one medium to another flawlessly, you have to view them as 2 separate works. As far as Shield Hero works as an anime it holds up tremendously well compared to 90% of the other anime in it's genre.

Characters: Huge check mark here, the characters are all unique and well fleshed out. Naofumi is one of the most genuinely "real" feeling characters I've seen in anime in a long time. His character has tremendous depth and he grew and developed throughout the series, his personality is his own and he isn't a cookie-cutter isekai harem protag. Raphtalia also grew tremendously and has a wide range of character development moments (that Rifana episode is still one of the best character development moments in an anime ever). And even the more "Stereotypical" characters like Filo and Melty were well done and likable even if they had less depth. And let's not forget one of anime's best villains in Myne...er Bitch

Plot: This is kinda the weak point of the show. The plot isn't exceptional and filled with twists and turns or any great writing, in fact the writing is horrible in some places. But the focus of the anime is it's characters and the plot isn't so bad that it is distracting, it just does what it needs to do to keep you watching, nothing more nothing less.

Action / Animation: Weak here as well, no incredibly amazing animation or action scenes, but again the show is meant to be more character driven and psychological than say OPM or something so it can get away with less action and less fluid animation. Not atrocious, but not good either.

Finale: Overall very well done, it is nice how everything comes back full circle while still leaving room for another season. A lot of lose ends were tied up but many remain, Raphtalia finally got to speak her hear, and we get a very nice perspective on how much these characters have grown since the start. In stark contrast the sword, spear, and bow heroes are shown to be the exact same exhibiting no growth at all which is a nice subtle bit of symbolism.

Overall: 9/10
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I don't know how L'arc Therese and Glass are able to go from one world to another without the waves? Does one of them have a power to where they can go from one world to another?
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I absolutely loved this series and the ending, not sure why everyone is upset about it. Kinda strikes me as LN readers mad that the LN wasn't adapted perfectly...but to be fair it's impossible to adapt something from one medium to another flawlessly, you have to view them as 2 separate works. As far as Shield Hero works as an anime it holds up tremendously well compared to 90% of the other anime in it's genre.

Characters: Huge check mark here, the characters are all unique and well fleshed out. Naofumi is one of the most genuinely "real" feeling characters I've seen in anime in a long time. His character has tremendous depth and he grew and developed throughout the series, his personality is his own and he isn't a cookie-cutter isekai harem protag. Raphtalia also grew tremendously and has a wide range of character development moments (that Rifana episode is still one of the best character development moments in an anime ever). And even the more "Stereotypical" characters like Filo and Melty were well done and likable even if they had less depth. And let's not forget one of anime's best villains in Myne...er Bitch

Plot: This is kinda the weak point of the show. The plot isn't exceptional and filled with twists and turns or any great writing, in fact the writing is horrible in some places. But the focus of the anime is it's characters and the plot isn't so bad that it is distracting, it just does what it needs to do to keep you watching, nothing more nothing less.

Action / Animation: Weak here as well, no incredibly amazing animation or action scenes, but again the show is meant to be more character driven and psychological than say OPM or something so it can get away with less action and less fluid animation. Not atrocious, but not good either.

Finale: Overall very well done, it is nice how everything comes back full circle while still leaving room for another season. A lot of lose ends were tied up but many remain, Raphtalia finally got to speak her hear, and we get a very nice perspective on how much these characters have grown since the start. In stark contrast the sword, spear, and bow heroes are shown to be the exact same exhibiting no growth at all which is a nice subtle bit of symbolism.

Overall: 9/10


You have no idea how much was actually changed. Up to episode 14 was a perfectly fine adaptation, but 15 onwards is where major changes in characters had started and it continues to get worse and worse right up to the very end.

Its a shitty feeling having characters you really like, get an anime of the series to be excited for and then have their personalities either removed or become a completely different character all together. To have the story you were excited to see adapted just get twisted into something it is not. Its awful.
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HakureiOni wrote:

I absolutely loved this series and the ending, not sure why everyone is upset about it. Kinda strikes me as LN readers mad that the LN wasn't adapted perfectly...but to be fair it's impossible to adapt something from one medium to another flawlessly, you have to view them as 2 separate works. As far as Shield Hero works as an anime it holds up tremendously well compared to 90% of the other anime in it's genre.

Characters: Huge check mark here, the characters are all unique and well fleshed out. Naofumi is one of the most genuinely "real" feeling characters I've seen in anime in a long time. His character has tremendous depth and he grew and developed throughout the series, his personality is his own and he isn't a cookie-cutter isekai harem protag. Raphtalia also grew tremendously and has a wide range of character development moments (that Rifana episode is still one of the best character development moments in an anime ever). And even the more "Stereotypical" characters like Filo and Melty were well done and likable even if they had less depth. And let's not forget one of anime's best villains in Myne...er Bitch

Plot: This is kinda the weak point of the show. The plot isn't exceptional and filled with twists and turns or any great writing, in fact the writing is horrible in some places. But the focus of the anime is it's characters and the plot isn't so bad that it is distracting, it just does what it needs to do to keep you watching, nothing more nothing less.

Action / Animation: Weak here as well, no incredibly amazing animation or action scenes, but again the show is meant to be more character driven and psychological than say OPM or something so it can get away with less action and less fluid animation. Not atrocious, but not good either.

Finale: Overall very well done, it is nice how everything comes back full circle while still leaving room for another season. A lot of lose ends were tied up but many remain, Raphtalia finally got to speak her hear, and we get a very nice perspective on how much these characters have grown since the start. In stark contrast the sword, spear, and bow heroes are shown to be the exact same exhibiting no growth at all which is a nice subtle bit of symbolism.

Overall: 9/10


I’d say Spear is the only one who showed growth at the end (of the other heroes). For someone who was the first to snap at naofumi and lay everything at his feet, saying he wants to visit the guy and is happy for his little home definitely is a reversal to his earlier stances. He even told Bitch to stop being a ....bitch

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Throws a party...ding dong, this show is dead ...this show is dead.

Gets an envelope ...with the words Second season on it .....burns the envelope and then grabs a pitch fork and some torches.

Anyway, it's finally over and I am kind of glad.

The Rise of the shield hero is a special show for special folks. To me, it never rises to it's own namesake, and I kind of agree with the other characters ...Naofumi was a cheat character. His greatest strength was actually incredible luck, a fact that filters down to every team mate he gains and every character he met.

Not a self made hero, but more a lucky one ...
It's hard to understand why this show gave it such a dark beginning if they had no plans of ever really making the hero have to make any hard choices. If he wasn't given a powerup by fate or some magically situation ...it was literally dropped on him at no expense of his own.


No matter what he did, he never had to pay a price for the choices he made.

It's a good series overall, but, not what it advertises itself to be.

Rating it: 6/10
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Throws a party...ding dong, this show is dead ...this show is dead.

Gets an envelope ...with the words Second season on it .....burns the envelope and then grabs a pitch fork and some torches.

Anyway, it's finally over and I am kind of glad.

The Rise of the shield hero is a special show for special folks. To me, it never rises to it's own namesake, and I kind of agree with the other characters ...Naofumi was a cheat character. His greatest strength was actually incredible luck, a fact that filters down to every team mate he gains and every character he met.

Not a self made hero, but more a lucky one ...
It's hard to understand why this show gave it such a dark beginning if they had no plans of ever really making the hero have to make any hard choices. If he wasn't given a powerup by fate or some magically situation ...it was literally dropped on him at no expense of his own.


No matter what he did, he never had to pay a price for the choices he made.

It's a good series overall, but, not what it advertises itself to be.

Rating it: 6/10


Well gee someone got off the wrong side of the bed.
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Unfortunately this image is a week late, but if there is a second season I hope L'Arc and Naofumi can be friends again.

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Eh. We can waste 2 episodes on the Pope fight but let's wrap up the cataclysmic final battle in 7 minutes or so with 80s side by side shocked face cuts. -.-

This episode was practically just anime only. It's not even worth trying to list everything that was changed, cut or glued together. Emphasis on glue as the village part was still like 3 books away in the LNs. If this actually gets a season 2 it's going to be a mess for LN fans and anime fans that pick up the LNs or manga are going to be lost.

I will say though that the worst part of this episode was turning Lecia's suicide attempt into basically a gag rather than a serious dramatic moment. As was cutting out her entire story and character including the part where Naofumi goes and tears Itsuki a new asshole for the way they treat Lecia. Naofumi was suppose to be directly involved in the scene that led to her throwing herself in the ocean immediately afterwards. Hell, he's the CAUSE of the scene. Without the Naofumi vs Itsuki scene, Lecia doesn't run away and throw herself into the ocean. Nevermind that Naofumi was suppose to have met, talked with and helped Lecia two times prior to this by now. He's suppose to know what's happening to her already. Not have Melty give a 2 line explanation of 1/10th of the actual story ( and no, Melty is not in this scene in the LN. Neither is Raph for that matter. It's just him, Filo and Lecia ).

It also falls pretty flat when Naofumi says "Knowing Itsuki" as the show has cut virtually all of Itsuki's character development from ep 15 onward. Including the rather pertinent scenes before this that showed the way Itsuki treats his party and Lecia to begin with. Itsuki is exceedingly cruel to Lecia in the Naofumi vs Itsuki scene that leads to her suicide attempt and his party treats her like a slave.

Anime vs LN ( Spoiler tag just for image size. )




Then of course Melty being shoehorned into the final fight as harem bait remains terrible as well. Canonically speaking she's something like level 20 here. Therese would one shot her and Melty's magic would do jack and shit against Therese. You can't adhere to the game system by continuing to show party levels and what not on the UI but then insert Melty into the battle as on par with Therese.

I have to agree with Azure on this. Ep 15 was when it veered off and started to come apart as they tried to change characters and events while cutting really important scenes and information. Then the Queen's return was milquetoast ( the gutting of her character remains one of the show's worst offenses ) and the whole Cal Mira arc felt like a rushed OVA.

The Queen still comes across as a moron even at the end when she presumably catches the King up to something and is just like "Oh you!".

Looking at it from a strictly anime point of view it started solid with a unique ( if questionable ) premise and ended like any other generic isekai with a harem and an overly convenient happy ending. They even did the troll angle hug that looks like a kiss.

Oh, and everybody's creepy little hands. >.>




Creepy little haaaaands.
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I wasn't quite sure how they'd handle the finale, as rushed as they were approaching everything. And hoo boy did they rush things. Luticia's entire characterization is, "HWUEEEEEEEEEEH!"

But, for all the short-cuts and changes, they did at least bring Naofumi around to a decent enough turn of character. I was ready to call the conclusion pretty good, and then they brought up the slave trader again to remind the audience of the kind of shit the story chose to overlook. It could have certainly been worse, but what probably should have been consequential teases just felt hollow and superficial. But hey, Naofumi's village, so happy ending, amirite?
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This episode was practically just anime only. It's not even worth trying to list everything that was changed, cut or glued together. Emphasis on glue as the village part was still like 3 books away in the LNs. If this actually gets a season 2 it's going to be a mess for LN fans and anime fans that pick up the LNs or manga are going to be lost.




when they jump over 3 books worth of content to give a "satisfying ending", it makes you wonder if they plan to stop here. Still begs the question though, why not just stop at episode 21. That felt like a finale, but the shoe horned in 4 more episodes.
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