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Lil' Wanye A.K.A. Weezy F. Baby / Birdman Jr.
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07
In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


..............he already does that, didn't u listen to "Dufflebag Boy"

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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

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crasyjak wrote:

TRUE u cant ignore this fact but you cant forget a lot of rap listeners are ignorant


so fuckin true
they most people idolize rap is truly sicking and angers me they allways complain about slip ups white people make and ignore what rappers say im not sayin that rap is bad but it send bad messages


If rap sends bad messages then what about television and the internet.
Its up mto the listener to decide how to take the content, but if you decide to start calling women bitches and hoes that's your fault.
Don't use rap as a scapegoat
Expression is what makes us unique
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

big_j_gangsta wrote:


darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


..............he already does that, didn't u listen to "Dufflebag Boy"



It's a hook
its not his song
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ade25 wrote:


darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


and in the end they get with out giving a damn about how many people die of the stuff they say


It's not the artist's fault.........here's where we explain the true reason of why hip hop is being viewed this way. Let me remind you that in order for an artist to get paid........they have to be willing to give into the demands of THE RECORD COMPANY. And trust me, you can have an emcee that will only want to release a lot of good, conscious-minded shit.........but the execs. of his record company will reject all shit until he makes a club-banger that talks about the negative shit b/c record execs. believe it will sell. And guess what (to borrow a quote from Jay Z), men lie.......women lie........numbers don't, and statistics show that by speakin about negative bullshit, people will go buy this shit. So if u want people to blame, blame the record companies........and hell, blame the ignorance of the mainstream music audience

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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07
I can admit that Wayne puts out garbage sometimes, but WHO does not.
Fan or not, give props when its due
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

big_j_gangsta wrote:


ade25 wrote:


darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


and in the end they get with out giving a damn about how many people die of the stuff they say


It's not the artist's fault.........here's where we explain the true reason of why hip hop is being viewed this way. Let me remind you that in order for an artist to get paid........they have to be willing to give into the demands of THE RECORD COMPANY. And trust me, you can have an emcee that will only want to release a lot of good, conscious-minded shit.........but the execs. of his record company will reject all shit until he makes a club-banger that talks about the negative shit b/c record execs. believe it will sell. And guess what (to borrow a quote from Jay Z), men lie.......women lie........numbers don't, and statistics show that by speakin about negative bullshit, people will go buy this shit. So if u want people to blame, blame the record companies........and hell, blame the ignorance of the mainstream music audience



Point well made
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

darksaint124 wrote:

I can admit that Wayne puts out garbage sometimes, but WHO does not.
Fan or not, give props when its due


To be redudant again, I've already stated b4. Only prpz I'm giving Lil Wayne is that he's a good hustla PERIOD. Anything else..........u ain't seein any thumbs goin up for those
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lmfao lmfao can't stop HELP
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

ade25 wrote:


big_j_gangsta wrote:


ade25 wrote:


darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


and in the end they get with out giving a damn about how many people die of the stuff they say


It's not the artist's fault.........here's where we explain the true reason of why hip hop is being viewed this way. Let me remind you that in order for an artist to get paid........they have to be willing to give into the demands of THE RECORD COMPANY. And trust me, you can have an emcee that will only want to release a lot of good, conscious-minded shit.........but the execs. of his record company will reject all shit until he makes a club-banger that talks about the negative shit b/c record execs. believe it will sell. And guess what (to borrow a quote from Jay Z), men lie.......women lie........numbers don't, and statistics show that by speakin about negative bullshit, people will go buy this shit. So if u want people to blame, blame the record companies........and hell, blame the ignorance of the mainstream music audience


dos not mean they should ur not doing anyone a favor by doing so



At the end of the day it's a business, it the artist does not meet the needs of the record company........that artist will never release an album EVER. I mean, there are conscious artists that manage to get their shit released by major companies (Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def).........but they also get repirmanded by the companies by not meeting to the needs of the ignorant consumers, and that punishment is thru the promotion of their records. If they were one of those gangsta emcees/whack ringtone rappers, the record companies would be all over their dicks in terms of promoting their albums........even tho the quality is garbage, but the consumers love that shit, so the companies will support it. Like I said b4 about who to blame........won't repeat them again
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I agree until this point And Weezy's artistic ability is prolly fucking mediocre as well, because I tolerate all the bitches, hoes, hustlin shit...........but that man's lyrical creativity is limited. Even on some of the more conscious-minded, slow-tempo joints he makes, they are lyrically not any better than his usually club-bangers.

I think he's garbage as an emcee, that don't mean I hate the muthafucka. I respect this man's hustle PERIOD. However, Lil Wayne dickriders (excluding urself, u clearly don't show that much of an obsession for him) just make it harder for me to respect this muthafucka as an artist.


ARE U SERIOUS!

"I be with savages, & im above average
**I'm a crazy ass star like a fuckin Asterik** - who says stuff like this
You nikkas cant see me im on my casper shit
next 3 lines sequence of events not just random rhyme, & yes i know common could sequence & rhyme scheme WAY better than weezy but is a southern lyricist...not makin any excuses
Runnin so much game i fuck around & lap a bitch And the club just like a grocery, i just bag a bitch
and you know im gonna score like Deion after picks..."

aye im not a dickrider...ok i may be a dickrider NO HOMO LOL
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

big_j_gangsta wrote:


ade25 wrote:


big_j_gangsta wrote:


ade25 wrote:


darksaint124 wrote:

In the end its all about money anyway
Weezy's on top until he decides to start singing on every song


and in the end they get with out giving a damn about how many people die of the stuff they say


It's not the artist's fault.........here's where we explain the true reason of why hip hop is being viewed this way. Let me remind you that in order for an artist to get paid........they have to be willing to give into the demands of THE RECORD COMPANY. And trust me, you can have an emcee that will only want to release a lot of good, conscious-minded shit.........but the execs. of his record company will reject all shit until he makes a club-banger that talks about the negative shit b/c record execs. believe it will sell. And guess what (to borrow a quote from Jay Z), men lie.......women lie........numbers don't, and statistics show that by speakin about negative bullshit, people will go buy this shit. So if u want people to blame, blame the record companies........and hell, blame the ignorance of the mainstream music audience


dos not mean they should ur not doing anyone a favor by doing so



At the end of the day it's a business, it the artist does not meet the needs of the record company........that artist will never release an album EVER. I mean, there are conscious artists that manage to get their shit released by major companies (Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Def).........but they also get repirmanded by the companies by not meeting to the needs of the ignorant consumers, and that punishment is thru the promotion of their records. If they were one of those gangsta emcees/whack ringtone rappers, the record companies would be all over their dicks in terms of promoting their albums........even tho the quality is garbage, but the consumers love that shit, so the companies will support it. Like I said b4 about who to blame........won't repeat them again


Gangsta emcees don't sell records
Conscious rappers don't sell records
Gimick rappers sell singles not records
You have to be an all around emcee
If you want to blame anyone, blame the women who buy albums and the men that don't
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

darksaint124 wrote:


ade25 wrote:


crasyjak wrote:

TRUE u cant ignore this fact but you cant forget a lot of rap listeners are ignorant


so fuckin true
they most people idolize rap is truly sicking and angers me they allways complain about slip ups white people make and ignore what rappers say im not sayin that rap is bad but it send bad messages


If rap sends bad messages then what about television and the internet.
Its up mto the listener to decide how to take the content, but if you decide to start calling women bitches and hoes that's your fault.
Don't use rap as a scapegoat
Expression is what makes us unique


CHURCH
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07

crasyjak wrote:

ARE U SERIOUS!

"I be with savages, & im above average
**I'm a crazy ass star like a fuckin Asterik** - who says stuff like this
You nikkas cant see me im on my casper shit
next 3 lines sequence of events not just random rhyme, & yes i know common could sequence & rhyme scheme WAY better than weezy but is a southern lyricist...not makin any excuses
Runnin so much game i fuck around & lap a bitch And the club just like a grocery, i just bag a bitch
and you know im gonna score like Deion after picks..."

aye im not a dickrider...ok i may be a dickrider NO HOMO LOL


"blood pressure rising, you damn near lost it/hit the ground burning and woke up frostbit" - Rakim

"Fuckin punk, you ain't a Leader. what? Nobody Followed you
You was never shit, your mother shoulda swallowed you" - Big L

"I knocked two skeezer pleasers black like Jesus" - Keith Murray

"Undercover C-Cypher sprayed up like windshield wipers/while I'm guzzling Pipers/changin my son shitty ass diapers" - RZA of Wu-Tang Clan

"..Created a buzz so you gotta mention his name/
When you discuss the illest playa that's in the game/
And he's ridin with Em, 50 cent, Doc and them/
G Unit records aint no motherfuckin stoppin them./" - Lloyd Banks

"He's straight outta the neighborhood but Niggaz hate
They see you go and eat your dinner off a bigger plate
Your stomachs ache while he's loungin at the big estate."- Lloyd Banks

"Its important yall tell/cause im the real thing yall just copying the Gordon Gartrelle" - Joe Budden

Like I've said.........I've heard better.

As for the Southern lyricist argument.........
"Ladies want him to spend it, he gets offended/ And kicks them out the car like a license being suspended/ Pockets green like a pool table, since we on the topic/
More numbers than a pool table in my corner pocket" - Chamillionaire
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Posted 10/24/07 , edited 10/25/07
Yo J we in the 21st century, but I was rocking with you until you said Canibus
that line does not make sense, literally
and Buddens is nice, you shoulda found a better quote b4 the Joey haters come out
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