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Posted 5/20/10 , edited 5/21/10

slowdude wrote:


edward-elric wrote:

Make Goku fall for Boa Hancock's (One Piece) ability to turn anyone, who thinks she's beautiful, to stone and then crush it.



If Luffy didn't fall for Boa, why would Goku fall for her.


Haha, you certainly have a point there. I forgot about his low intelligence.
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/21/10
So far the only thing I've seen in anime that comes remotely close to beating goku would be the death note. Honestly i don't remember the death note having the rule it only affects humans, ryuk only stated that it dosen't affect shinigami. who's to say that it wouldn't work on a saiyan? Besides, I'm sure the mangaka didn't take into account of aliens since you know... they aren't around.
As for some of these other abilities who knows? black holes? dimensional beings? Goku's "instant transmission" never truly stated how fast he moves with it. It might be fast enough to avoid the pull of one if he knows the attack is comming. As far as other beings are concerned who's to say if he can't track them? Perhaps magical power can be sensed like ki? if that's the case then instant transmission can make it. after all he can use it to travel to the AFTERLIFE. if that's not an alternate reality I don't know what is! As far as Geass is concerned I don't think Lelouch's would work. Saiyans seem to be able to use ki to overpower forms of mind control. After all it worked for vegeta, why not goku?
As for Gurren Lagann... well, I just don't see it happening. The primary principle being that goku can dodge it and plus Gurren Lagann is HUGE! goku is at best a tall human's size. it's like using a bazooka to shoot a fly, it's just not likely to happen
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/21/10
I'll repeat again........Dragon Ball is nowhere near being the strongest anime/manga universe........Of all the anime/manga I have seen, the following anime/manga has characters that can defeat the Dragon Ball universe:

Sailor Moon
To Aru Majutsu No Index
King of Braves Gaogaigar
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Bastard!!
Saint Seiya
Tenchi Muyo
Jojo's Bizzare Adventure
Heroic Age
Yu-Gi-Oh
Digimon
Slayers
Gunbuster/Diebuster

Other then the ones above, the Dragon Ball Universe pretty much kills everyone else.

I only limit to anime/manga....
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/21/10

ShinZeroAyu wrote:

I'll repeat again........Dragon Ball is nowhere near being the strongest anime/manga universe........Of all the anime/manga I have seen, the following anime/manga has characters that can defeat the Dragon Ball universe:

Sailor Moon
To Aru Majutsu No Index
King of Braves Gaogaigar
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Bastard!!
Saint Seiya
Tenchi Muyo
Jojo's Bizzare Adventure
Heroic Age
Yu-Gi-Oh
Digimon
Slayers
Gunbuster/Diebuster

Other then the ones above, the Dragon Ball Universe pretty much kills everyone else.

I only limit to anime/manga....


Some of these I can't comment about but some of these are total garbage so I'll shoot them down as I go
While I cannot claim to have read the manga the anime at least for sailor moon shows no indication of being remotely strong so I think that one's out.
As far as Gurren Lagann is concerned, i already addressed it...
Tenchi Muyo! is moot, at least from the series's of it I've seen NO character mounts up to that
Age's Nodos might be a good fight but I find the same problems with Gurren Lagann as I do with this. They're too damned big!
Yu-Gi-Oh well, goku's likely too stupid to learn how to play the card game and as such would likely be unable to fight
Digimon, total crap
Slayers, Lina wouldn't have nearly enough time even with the whole group defending her to manage a Giga Slave which would be her ONLY option, and yes I do mean WITH xelos defending her too
As for the rest I haven't seen/read enough to comment on but at least it appears that some of the others are such low-scale with fighting that I still think that goku could beat them.
I know the thread is about finding characters that CAN beat the big G but frankly there aren't many...
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/21/10
I agree with Tycho. Let me add some things. Any anime that has a mecha will not defeat Goku. So dont bother. This is how you narrow your options down. It doesnt matter what character you have against Goku. If Goku used 1 instant transmission to warp behind the person and then kick/punch him/her...its pretty much over. And even if they do managa to get up....he can warp (Not even using a transmission...just using the speed that all characters in DBZ have) and just energy blast the hell out of them. Now let me take To Aru Majutsu No Index for example. Yes the main character can nullify ANYTHING (Well first you have to debate if Goku is even using magic to begin with...but lets just give you the upper hand and say it is), it would not matter at all since 1 kick from a saiyan would end any character from To Aru..and practically 80 percent of the anime characters in the world out there. Look, Piccolo destroyed the moon...THE MOON! Tell me which character in any other anime has that kind of power. Then after you figure out that probably none of them do. Multiply Piccolos power by lets say....10000? Then you got Gokus power in probably super saiyan 1. Im not gona even bother mentioning SS4. Hell Frieza blew up an entire planet with his finger. Yea end of story.

However....I will say this....I think that the ONLY character who HAS A CHANCE. Would be Haruhi Suzimiya and here is why. First off...if what I'm saying about Haruhi's power is wrong...then forget this little excerp completely. If I remember correctly, anything that she wishes to happen that she thinks of in her head will happen. So if it was a 1v1...it would be a battle to see how fast she can think like (I wish Goku to be erased from existence) vs Goku's speed. Thats the only logical matchup that i can think could work. The Power of God vs Goku...now thats a fight. Tho it would be over in 5 seconds or less.
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/21/10

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Godxclericx wrote:

Here's the easiest solution. Get Shiki Tohno from Tsukihime and have him cut Goku's line. Erase his existence entirely! GG
OR
Haruhi Suzumiya. BITCH!! NOTHING CAN BEAT GOD! Once again erase the existence of his universe. He was never even created.


Shiki's special is quite dangerous, however he has many flaws. He's not OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!, can't spam ki blast, can't blow people away with just air pressure, can't create a earthquake from just tapping the ground, can't teleport, can't temporarily blind people, can't blow up planets, and most importantly he can't fly.

You do realize she's only God in her own anime universe right ?? Plus Lain (Serial Experiments Lain) > Haruhi

I'm not saying Son-Goku is unbeatable, your just using really bad examples.


Besides that Haruhi doesn't even know she is GOD.

As for the whole Light+ Deathnote thing. Has anybody even considered the fact that Light has to find out Goku's real name, and write how he dies during a fight. I'm pretty sure Goku could kill a human faster then a human can write his name in a book.

Besides that...
Wasn't the whole point of this topic to find out someone who could beat Goku in a fight.
For my answer i say anyone from Naruto that can perform genjutsu, or from any other show that can hurt someone threw the mind.


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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/22/10
Well....I also think that Super Android 17 could beat Goku...I mean the only reason he lost was because of his good side holding his body so Goku could get the final blow. I mean he was dominating that entire fight.
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I agree with Tycho. Let me add some things. Any anime that has a mecha will not defeat Goku. So dont bother. This is how you narrow your options down. It doesnt matter what character you have against Goku. If Goku used 1 instant transmission to warp behind the person and then kick/punch him/her...its pretty much over. And even if they do managa to get up....he can warp (Not even using a transmission...just using the speed that all characters in DBZ have) and just energy blast the hell out of them. Now let me take To Aru Majutsu No Index for example. Yes the main character can nullify ANYTHING (Well first you have to debate if Goku is even using magic to begin with...but lets just give you the upper hand and say it is), it would not matter at all since 1 kick from a saiyan would end any character from To Aru..and practically 80 percent of the anime characters in the world out there. Look, Piccolo destroyed the moon...THE MOON! Tell me which character in any other anime has that kind of power. Then after you figure out that probably none of them do. Multiply Piccolos power by lets say....10000? Then you got Gokus power in probably super saiyan 1. Im not gona even bother mentioning SS4. Hell Frieza blew up an entire planet with his finger. Yea end of story.

However....I will say this....I think that the ONLY character who HAS A CHANCE. Would be Haruhi Suzimiya and here is why. First off...if what I'm saying about Haruhi's power is wrong...then forget this little excerp completely. If I remember correctly, anything that she wishes to happen that she thinks of in her head will happen. So if it was a 1v1...it would be a battle to see how fast she can think like (I wish Goku to be erased from existence) vs Goku's speed. Thats the only logical matchup that i can think could work. The Power of God vs Goku...now thats a fight. Tho it would be over in 5 seconds or less.


Than how about the character than even God fears, the person who even made the devil his bitch.

the character from Bastard!!! known as Darsha.
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/22/10
I have heard Bastard!! mentioned a lot on this forum...and I have not seen this anime so....I truly have no idea. But due to how everyone says this guy has ungodly powers or something.....they may be right. I need to watch it however.
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/22/10

Mareo-and-anime wrote:

This has been driving me crazy for months.

Somebody from where I work, let's call him 'X', has only ever seen one anime series, DBZ, refuses to watch any others and claims that the main character, Goku, could, and I quote: "Pretty much destroy any other anime character that has ever existed."

The reason? "Because he's Goku!"

I know that any character from DBZ has basically got an automatic "I-Win" button for any and all occasions where they may be beaten to a bloody pulp, but surely there must be somebody in Anime that could beat Goku senseless? Please, please bring forward your challengers, along with why they could beat him!

(And just to warn you, 'X' practically worships the guy, so the reasons had better be pretty foolproof. I'm not kidding- lay it on thick.)




I'm sorry to say this but he's right...We know how intense dbz is and no other anime characters can challenge those from DBZ in a fight...I'm sure there are characters who could just kill off goku such as kira of death note but to fight no...My favorite anime is one piece and still no characters in there can never beat a dbz character...

The characters in DBZ are just to intense for any other anime character...and goku have and can beat anyone in dbz he already proved his worth...
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Posted 5/21/10 , edited 5/22/10

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Mareo-and-anime wrote:

This has been driving me crazy for months.

Somebody from where I work, let's call him 'X', has only ever seen one anime series, DBZ, refuses to watch any others and claims that the main character, Goku, could, and I quote: "Pretty much destroy any other anime character that has ever existed."

The reason? "Because he's Goku!"

I know that any character from DBZ has basically got an automatic "I-Win" button for any and all occasions where they may be beaten to a bloody pulp, but surely there must be somebody in Anime that could beat Goku senseless? Please, please bring forward your challengers, along with why they could beat him!

(And just to warn you, 'X' practically worships the guy, so the reasons had better be pretty foolproof. I'm not kidding- lay it on thick.)




I'm sorry to say this but he's right...We know how intense dbz is and no other anime characters can challenge those from DBZ in a fight...I'm sure there are characters who could just kill off goku such as kira of death note but to fight no...My favorite anime is one piece and still no characters in there can never beat a dbz character...

The characters in DBZ are just to intense for any other anime character...and goku have and can beat anyone in dbz he already proved his worth...


Your wrong ID from Xenogears the game could own Goku.
And Darsha from Bastard!! the manga could make goku look like a little wimp/
Goku as normal human, Darsha bad ass evil superman who does not hold back.
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Posted 5/22/10 , edited 5/22/10
Hey....since Goku is a fictional character...

*uses eraser*

The end.
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Posted 5/25/10 , edited 5/26/10

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Chuck Norris.


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Posted 5/25/10 , edited 5/26/10
Sakata Gintoki can defeat Goku
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Posted 5/25/10 , edited 5/26/10
tetsuou from Akira probably. Due to the fact that goku's ability's are energy based whereas tets's are mental, goku has no real ability to resist. At the end of akira tetsuou's mental ability's are so strong he ascends to a god-like level and proceeds to go create a new universe. While physically frail, he can transcend past that and attack goku with psychic powers or erase his existence altogether.

Many characters that use psychic powers could beat goku, he's just a brute.

in a direct one on one brawl though, goku would come out on top pretty much always. Very few individual characters from anime have shown the ability to destroy planets with a single attack. In the first few episodes of z vegeta blows up a planet, by the end of the series everyone is infinitely stronger than vegeta was at that point, even krillin, and thats saying something. Blowing up a planet is a low level ability. He's just too damned overpowered.
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