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How and where do you kick your opponents?

Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Also, FYI, everyone saying roundhouse kicks obviously wouldnt be able to defend themselves if a guy in a wheelchair attacked the... If you do a roundhouse kick, you are effectivly taking almost ALL of the power out of the kick. Roundhouse kicks are flashy and look cool, thats all, but very innefective damage wise. Just do a normal side kick, and make sure to lead the kick with your dominant arm or you will end up falling on your ass.


I believe this is why so many taekwondo fighters lose. they try to do their jump spin rib kick counter, not sure the name of it, and it "always" either: knocks them off balance and they fall down losing any advantage they might of had, or it lands but had almost no power to it.
If you are going to kick in an ACTUAL fight it should probably be aimed for their legs trying to slow them by damaging their mobility which can also affect their upper body strength.


well, roundhouse kicks are rather good in either distracting or hitting the face for taekwondo practitioners. in karate we are trained to either hit the softer parts of the opponents. i'd rather use frontal for abdomen or a modified roundhouse kick at the ribs rather than hitting the face with it. i would not like risking my leg bones for the sake of dealing damage to my opponents. side or back kicks would always be nice in hitting the abdomen so as the frontal kick. its not like i am well trained to perform flying kicks but at least we should know about the basics before advancing to the more complicated ones.
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Also, FYI, everyone saying roundhouse kicks obviously wouldnt be able to defend themselves if a guy in a wheelchair attacked the... If you do a roundhouse kick, you are effectivly taking almost ALL of the power out of the kick. Roundhouse kicks are flashy and look cool, thats all, but very innefective damage wise. Just do a normal side kick, and make sure to lead the kick with your dominant arm or you will end up falling on your ass.


I believe this is why so many taekwondo fighters lose. they try to do their jump spin rib kick counter, not sure the name of it, and it "always" either: knocks them off balance and they fall down losing any advantage they might of had, or it lands but had almost no power to it.
If you are going to kick in an ACTUAL fight it should probably be aimed for their legs trying to slow them by damaging their mobility which can also affect their upper body strength.


QFT, there is not a single place I have gone that didn't tell me that the tai kwan do is a bunch of flashy moves. I used to do tae kwan do when I was 5. But then in middle school I was in karate and the key principle to karate is to strike effective blows that can down an opponent with hard striking blows that use as little stamina/unnecesary movement as possible. Even the teacher would always use tae kwan do as an example of how they are better in actual fights.

Even when I joined up with my MMA/grappling club, they always talked about how not to replicate what the people in taekwando does. It's really just not effective, but the people who teach taekwando will always stand by it.

Fun Fact: Tae kwan do is not a real "eastern martial art". It is a modernly invented form that takes from many others and makes them look more "Flashy".

I mean, what would you do when you see a person with this back turned to you while 2 feet in the air??? Haha I'd push him gently and let gravity do the rest.
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

DrifterZ0 wrote:


alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Also, FYI, everyone saying roundhouse kicks obviously wouldnt be able to defend themselves if a guy in a wheelchair attacked the... If you do a roundhouse kick, you are effectivly taking almost ALL of the power out of the kick. Roundhouse kicks are flashy and look cool, thats all, but very innefective damage wise. Just do a normal side kick, and make sure to lead the kick with your dominant arm or you will end up falling on your ass.


I believe this is why so many taekwondo fighters lose. they try to do their jump spin rib kick counter, not sure the name of it, and it "always" either: knocks them off balance and they fall down losing any advantage they might of had, or it lands but had almost no power to it.
If you are going to kick in an ACTUAL fight it should probably be aimed for their legs trying to slow them by damaging their mobility which can also affect their upper body strength.


well, roundhouse kicks are rather good in either distracting or hitting the face for taekwondo practitioners. in karate we are trained to either hit the softer parts of the opponents. i'd rather use frontal for abdomen or a modified roundhouse kick at the ribs rather than hitting the face with it. i would not like risking my leg bones for the sake of dealing damage to my opponents. side or back kicks would always be nice in hitting the abdomen so as the frontal kick. its not like i am well trained to perform flying kicks but at least we should know about the basics before advancing to the more complicated ones.


True: The roundhouse kick can distract quite well. The only problem is, in a competition/exhibition match. The oponent KNOWS that the oponent is using taekwando. The thing is, taekwando roundhousekick is a point scoring technique that's made to be used on people who may not be familiar with the style. I'm not saying it isn't effective, it is quite good for scoring points as it gives the kicker the option of either making a light strike to the upper body, or kick scoring, or in some cases both.

Still, I personally don't find roundhouse kicks "Confusion" and "Option factor" worth the high ammount of risk with the possibility of inbalance, low impact, and wasted movement. You can kick somebody MUCH MUCH harder and more effectively using less stamina. My favorite is the muay thai kick, it is a simple compact sidekick with little leg movement, relying on your hips, and the guidance of your had to lead it into the oponent with what is said to have do the most ammount of damage out of any kicking style. Which is the reason why Muay thai arist almost always beats a kickboxer in a match.

The only problem is, in a bloodsport like MMA, or for that matter, in the read world. Round house kicks are the worst idea you could have.
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

varnlestoff wrote:


alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Also, FYI, everyone saying roundhouse kicks obviously wouldnt be able to defend themselves if a guy in a wheelchair attacked the... If you do a roundhouse kick, you are effectivly taking almost ALL of the power out of the kick. Roundhouse kicks are flashy and look cool, thats all, but very innefective damage wise. Just do a normal side kick, and make sure to lead the kick with your dominant arm or you will end up falling on your ass.


I believe this is why so many taekwondo fighters lose. they try to do their jump spin rib kick counter, not sure the name of it, and it "always" either: knocks them off balance and they fall down losing any advantage they might of had, or it lands but had almost no power to it.
If you are going to kick in an ACTUAL fight it should probably be aimed for their legs trying to slow them by damaging their mobility which can also affect their upper body strength.


QFT, there is not a single place I have gone that didn't tell me that the tai kwan do is a bunch of flashy moves. I used to do tae kwan do when I was 5. But then in middle school I was in karate and the key principle to karate is to strike effective blows that can down an opponent with hard striking blows that use as little stamina/unnecesary movement as possible. Even the teacher would always use tae kwan do as an example of how they are better in actual fights.

Even when I joined up with my MMA/grappling club, they always talked about how not to replicate what the people in taekwando does. It's really just not effective, but the people who teach taekwando will always stand by it.

Fun Fact: Tae kwan do is not a real "eastern martial art". It is a modernly invented form that takes from many others and makes them look more "Flashy".

I mean, what would you do when you see a person with this back turned to you while 2 feet in the air??? Haha I'd push him gently and let gravity do the rest.


I only took karate for 2 years and i dont remember a thing from when i did.
I started muay thai after that, its not actually muay thai the arm / hand placements are different in the stance but it still has the same fundementals. more of a common day MMA kind of form. but i have been in it ever since.
In any case i would rather brace for the kick and put all i have into blocking it just to see them fall, it would be completely worth it.
At your fun fact : What is the point in taking years to learn the balance of the form just to be flashy cool?
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:


alox wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Also, FYI, everyone saying roundhouse kicks obviously wouldnt be able to defend themselves if a guy in a wheelchair attacked the... If you do a roundhouse kick, you are effectivly taking almost ALL of the power out of the kick. Roundhouse kicks are flashy and look cool, thats all, but very innefective damage wise. Just do a normal side kick, and make sure to lead the kick with your dominant arm or you will end up falling on your ass.


I believe this is why so many taekwondo fighters lose. they try to do their jump spin rib kick counter, not sure the name of it, and it "always" either: knocks them off balance and they fall down losing any advantage they might of had, or it lands but had almost no power to it.
If you are going to kick in an ACTUAL fight it should probably be aimed for their legs trying to slow them by damaging their mobility which can also affect their upper body strength.


QFT, there is not a single place I have gone that didn't tell me that the tai kwan do is a bunch of flashy moves. I used to do tae kwan do when I was 5. But then in middle school I was in karate and the key principle to karate is to strike effective blows that can down an opponent with hard striking blows that use as little stamina/unnecesary movement as possible. Even the teacher would always use tae kwan do as an example of how they are better in actual fights.

Even when I joined up with my MMA/grappling club, they always talked about how not to replicate what the people in taekwando does. It's really just not effective, but the people who teach taekwando will always stand by it.

Fun Fact: Tae kwan do is not a real "eastern martial art". It is a modernly invented form that takes from many others and makes them look more "Flashy".

I mean, what would you do when you see a person with this back turned to you while 2 feet in the air??? Haha I'd push him gently and let gravity do the rest.


I only took karate for 2 years and i dont remember a thing from when i did.
I started muay thai after that, its not actually muay thai the arm / hand placements are different in the stance but it still has the same fundementals. more of a common day MMA kind of form. but i have been in it ever since.
In any case i would rather brace for the kick and put all i have into blocking it just to see them fall, it would be completely worth it.
At your fun fact : What is the point in taking years to learn the balance of the form just to be flashy cool?


YA! The nice thing about Muay Thai is that it is very good in a MMA match. Simple, and extremely effective kicking, and it beats out kickboxing. Nothing beats the best oft he best in muay thai on equal terms of a different style.. I fight with a mix of muay thai, modern boxing, and Judo/grappling for ground game.

Basically, muay thai experts hate me haha. Because they don't like it when people take skills from them and integrate them, but thats just how I am, a bybrid of a fighter. Nothing keeps your oponent as confused as them not knowing what kind of style you will use in the coming seconds.


Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
Well I think I wouldn't trust kicking that much. Kicking is only good for tall people with tall legs. Kicking with short legs wouldn't be much effective in range. Kicking with short legs is just ideal for a devastating blow to your opponent rather than range instead. Its a good way in keeping your opponents away in a distance, but having short legs would just be a handicap for its effectiveness. Grappling, blocks, throws, locks and effective escapes would be better in fights if you ask me. Punch would do well, but its not like we can shatter skulls with it. Kicks would be blocked as well, faster kicks won't be an option either it will only make your attacks ineffective.
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09

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Well I think I wouldn't trust kicking that much. Kicking is only good for tall people with tall legs. Kicking with short legs wouldn't be much effective in range. Kicking with short legs is just ideal for a devastating blow to your opponent rather than range. Grappling, blocks, throws, locks and effective escapes would be better in fights if you ask me. Punch would do well, but its not like we can shatter skulls with it. Kicks would be blocked as well, faster kicks won't be an option either it will only make your attacks ineffective.


Well kicks are good no matter your height or leg length.
If your opening is a kick then yeah your going to either get dropped or countered. (unless you are countering with a kick)
kicks are effective when used in chains say, right jab, left hook, right low kick. he might have blocked them all but you still did some damage to muscle, or maybe even sweeped him in the process depending on your style.
You dont have to add the kick in there, most people just go for a 1, 2 kind of thing.
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
my first aim is at the ass, ahaha
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You gotta be careful because kicks leave you open for throws, tricking them with punches works for me, their focusing on my arms instead of the powerful sidekick coming their way. Kicks can be really predictable, most of the time I've been able to get in close and throw opponents because I've caught their kick, then its just a matter of tossing them over.
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
Don't kick
A punch on the nose ftw ;]
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
lets not waste time... just kick the groin
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
forget kicking ,i have a iron fist of love, mwahahahaha
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/11/09
For girls: Pulling hair, punching the nose

For guys: Slapping...and punching if they're being an ass

For perverts: Kick in the ding-dongs
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Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/12/09

EverlastingDivinity wrote:

For girls: Pulling hair, punching the nose

For guys: Slapping...and punching if they're being an ass

For perverts: Kick in the ding-dongs


What's your definition of a pervert ? The ONLY case when it's justified to kick a gúy in his "ding dongs" is when he tries to rape or kill you !
Posted 12/11/09 , edited 12/12/09
not sure,im not really a kicker or puncher
im not even a fighter x)
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