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The Incentive of Fansub Community's Collective Mentality

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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

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Except that link has everything to do with you and this discussion. I suggest you read up on it, you might learn something.
How so? Why should I even consider an online website consisting of amateurs with no accountability on their publications? Just like why should I even consider fansubs to be accurate, when they don't get official supports from the original anime creators?

One, you are an amateur and on this website; two If you read Japanese there should be no problem recreating correct subtitles. Otherwise every Japanese person wouldn't be able to understand a single word, since it's obvious only the creators are capable of understanding.
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

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lol this thread sounds like another cynical attempt to change the anime world through an internet forum whos population still consists of mostly minors...
I'm just seriously making fun of the fansub community, because they can't be serious due to who they are.


thats cuz they r human
Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09
Well hi everyone! I have no idea what the hell everyone is talking about, but I love a good debate

So please, continue.
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I do not see it as being an amateur hobbyist or not being able to produce their own anime. The fact that they are fan subbers is because they are trying to appease to the whole fan based community. Also the only way to grab the public's attention is from the way they sub a raw produced anime, you can pretty well see the difference in fan subbing and company subbing on an anime. Any one would have to choose a colorful subtitle to that of a plain one. It's not so much as stealing but rather spreading a product IN their on way.
Argue about it as much as you want, you can never change the way they do things that grabs the public's attention.
Tell me, am I supposed to be watching anime, or just some attention-grabbing distraction called fansubs, which shouldn't even be there in the first place? A localization process had failed to perform its duty, when it took away the audiences' attention from the actual story.



And tell me, am I supposed to watch a Japanese animation that's dubbed in Japanese and not understand a single word of it? Fancy subbing or not, It's subbed so people who DO NOT understand the language can understand it in a different way. Good lord you're making people get worked up over this, you're an adult for crying out loud, act like one and deal with it man. And one more thing, the colors of those subs are supposed to go with the theme of what is being showed, not just because they do it for shits and giggles.
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

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I do not see it as being an amateur hobbyist or not being able to produce their own anime. The fact that they are fan subbers is because they are trying to appease to the whole fan based community. Also the only way to grab the public's attention is from the way they sub a raw produced anime, you can pretty well see the difference in fan subbing and company subbing on an anime. Any one would have to choose a colorful subtitle to that of a plain one. It's not so much as stealing but rather spreading a product IN their on way.
Argue about it as much as you want, you can never change the way they do things that grabs the public's attention.
Tell me, am I supposed to be watching anime, or just some attention-grabbing distraction called fansubs, which shouldn't even be there in the first place? A localization process had failed to perform its duty, when it took away the audiences' attention from the actual story.


And tell me, am I supposed to watch a Japanese animation that's dubbed in Japanese and not understand a single word of it? Fancy subbing or not, It's subbed so people who DO NOT understand the language can understand it in a different way. Good lord you're making people get worked up over this, you're an adult for crying out loud, act like one and deal with it man. And one more thing, the colors of those subs are supposed to go with the theme of what is being showed, not just because they do it for shits and giggles.
Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

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DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:

lol this thread sounds like another cynical attempt to change the anime world through an internet forum whos population still consists of mostly minors...
I'm just seriously making fun of the fansub community, because they can't be serious due to who they are.


thats cuz they r human
No, they are victims of their misplaced fear of unpleasant situations, commitments, progress, and truth. Humans are capable of overcoming their fears with courage, but what the fansub community are doing collectively is not courageous to say the least.
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Let me gander;
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/watched
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/stalled
You own all of those or have friend's who do?
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/dropped
So I guess when you bought them you didn't like them so they just sit in a corner collecting dust, or resell them?
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:

lol this thread sounds like another cynical attempt to change the anime world through an internet forum whos population still consists of mostly minors...
I'm just seriously making fun of the fansub community, because they can't be serious due to who they are.


thats cuz they r human
No, they are victims of their misplaced fear of unpleasant situations, commitments, progress, and truth. Humans are capable of overcoming their fears with courage, but what the fansub community are doing collectively is not courageous to say the least.


Would you also go into more detail on:
They're afraid of unpleasant situations. (What situations?)
They're afraid of commitments. (What commitments?)
They're afraid of progresses. (What progresses, the obvious fact they are way more capable of producing quality work; and that the fansubbing community haltering this course?)
And they're afraid of truth. (What truth, that they are in fact inflating there cost's, compared to other media content)
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Would you also go into more detail on:
They're afraid of unpleasant situations. (What situations?)
They're afraid of commitments. (What commitments?)
They're afraid of progresses. (What progresses, the obvious fact they are way more capable of producing quality work; and that the fansubbing community haltering this course?)
And they're afraid of truth. (What truth, that they are in fact inflating there cost's, compared to other media content)


Oh please, do you really expect him to go in depth?
Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

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Let me gander;
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/watched
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/stalled
You own all of those or have friend's who do?
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/DomFortress/anime/dropped
So I guess when you bought them you didn't like them so they just sit in a corner collecting dust, or resell them?
Can you proof those are actually me in real life, or just someone who used my internet handle to open an account on it?
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09
so if his post was repeat, what is he saying?
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:

lol this thread sounds like another cynical attempt to change the anime world through an internet forum whos population still consists of mostly minors...
I'm just seriously making fun of the fansub community, because they can't be serious due to who they are.


thats cuz they r human
No, they are victims of their misplaced fear of unpleasant situations, commitments, progress, and truth. Humans are capable of overcoming their fears with courage, but what the fansub community are doing collectively is not courageous to say the least.


fear is there to protect us and our way of life... those without fear r reckless which causes more problems look at it from their point of view walk a mile in their shoes
Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09

uhohimdead wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


uhohimdead wrote:

lol this thread sounds like another cynical attempt to change the anime world through an internet forum whos population still consists of mostly minors...
I'm just seriously making fun of the fansub community, because they can't be serious due to who they are.


thats cuz they r human
No, they are victims of their misplaced fear of unpleasant situations, commitments, progress, and truth. Humans are capable of overcoming their fears with courage, but what the fansub community are doing collectively is not courageous to say the least.


fear is there to protect us and our way of life... those without fear r reckless which causes more problems look at it from their point of view walk a mile in their shoes
I could, but I won't. For I no longer need the perverse incentive of misplaced fears like they still do anymore.
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09
So Mr. Fortress, I don't see your response to the definition of ad hominem.You're just going to refute everyone's argument except your own because they aren't professional or some BS like that.

There is no way to describe your posts other than trolls.
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Posted 3/8/09 , edited 3/9/09
Ok ignore that till I find this proof besides the odd obsession with Kamina; how about my other questions also; you are aware that magazine scan you host in your photobucket (that I knew is yours seeing how it has images of you and only you would have) are just as harmful and "illegal" to the magazine publishers by not buying their magazine? You didn't get permission from the song author from the song in your profile, you are no better than the fansubbers you call thieves.
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