Qu'ran Burning Event
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Darkphoenix3450 wrote: uae89 wrote: Darkphoenix3450 wrote: LO-LOZ wrote: thanx to show this video but it's a shame to burne any holy book ..this is the violence it self they claim that Qu'ran is a Violent book if it's ture so why Islam is increasing nowaday's all over the world I will give them the answer which is that new muslim's found them selves in Qu'ran... Europe about to be muslim whithout any war , weapons or any violence... they should ask them selves Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ? IN each Religion there r violent gangs that doesn't mean these religions r violent..Qu'ran orders always to share others in life & treats them safely and gently . in other side Qu'ran orders muslims to defend and protects all human , if any Dictator fight them or limits there freedom to choose any faith he wants. Nice try.. But The Qur'an tells you to lie to trick the non-believes into joining. If they do not join kill them. The Qur'an it self tells you how it is meant to be read. And how to deal with contradictions within it. All earlier remarks are to be forgotten and later remarks taken if you run into a contradiction. Hence the later remarks are the truth. So the words of piece in the Qur'an are lies. Even dictated by the Qur'an, the Qur'an wants you to kill all who does not obey the Qur'an. See a person takes the time to really study up on the Qur'an learns just how evil it really is. It even said its a sin to lie to a fellow member of your religion, but it tells you its ok to lie, steal, cheat, and kill anyone that is not of that religion. So tell me are you lien to us right now? Or are you that blind of your own holy scripture that you missed all that? I already did a video on that.. its here on the ED as well if you want more information on it, and the Qur'an. b4 u talk about islam go and study islam im a muslim and its my first time to hear about what u said and absolutely there is something wrong about where did u get ur information :) and if what u said is true then give me one reason why Islam religion is the most increasing religion ? As a scientist I do not open my mouth until I do fully examine and study the subject. In other words I have studied Islam, and The qur'an. What I have said was only the facts that can be found right in the qur'an. Leaving to think three possibilities about you 1. know little of your own religion, 2. you know you religion well, and your fallowing it to the tee by trying to blow smoke up my ass. or 3. Your the type of person the qur'an dictates will be going to hell, because you do not follow your religion down to the word. Feel free to re-read your Qur'an you find I have not Miss-represented it in the least. Because in my profession knowing is half the battle, and the gathering of knowledge is something I do well. Darkphoenix3450 >> Hey Knowledge Man ! Do you speak & understand Arabic ? Do you think we will give a damn thing about your Illiterate SORRY I mean your Knowledge ? Easy Easy Man relax & try another one Book Mmmmm I checked your profile By the way it's really you " Keep it up !!! |
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Darkphoenix3450 i respect ur active , but i ask u to prove ur words if u r honest , just give us one evidence from Qu'ran istrength ur
opinion the charges u claimed about Qu'ran r not truth on the contrary those charges r in the distorted other holy books not the original ones & im sorry to say that but its the turth . Our Qu'ran ordered us to believe other prophets and their holy books and if we don't we will be disbelievers .. not muslimes and we go to hell ..so what's ur opinion ? hence if the Qu'ran is lying so the prophets in it r not ture ... |
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papagolfwhiskey wrote: uae89 wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide papagolfwhiskey wrote: uae89 wrote: nope it wasnt that hard at all man bcuz its where u can win but about islam thingy nope u can't :3 so u believe that ur grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, ..... grand, grandfather was some sort of monkey ? ![]() I was asking if it was all that hard to actually properly spell. I didn't win because I see you're still massacring the Queen's English. As for the evolution question... Relevance? ah so that was ur point from the you thingy .... sorry i thought u meant something else ^^ hmmm well yea kind of Relevance i mean i never asked any Atheists about that thing so the first question are u one of them ? and the second do u really believe that or not ? Depends on what you mean by Atheist. My personal beliefs are complex. sometimes even self contradictory. There are believers in this world who would call me Atheist or even Apostate (I used to belong to a christian church). Dark Phoenix wouldn't consider me a real atheist. I'm too wishy washy for him. So first, I don't believe that belief in god, and accepting the theory of Evolution are mutually exclusive. You can find extensive arguments on the subject here on ED if you dig down into some of the older posts. On the subject of evolution. Basically... yeah. I believe and will continue to believe until a better scientific theory comes along that human life is part of this planet's life. I'll do you one better. I don't just think my grandfather to the 1000th power was the grandfather of all humans, apes, and other currently evolved primates. but that HIS grandfather to the 10 0000th power was the single celled animal that was the mother of all living beings on this planet. Second, It's NOT god I have a problem with, it's most churches. I'm a student of history. More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. I don't trust anyone who stands between me and god and claims that disobeying a human equates with disobeying god. I don't care if it's an American Baptist Preacher thundering fire and brimstone from his pulpit, The Pope, The ArchBishop of Cantebury, The Metropol of Orthodoxy, or name your Imam or Ayatollah or Caliph... They're just men. If I don't agree with them it shouldn't be blasphemy or heresy. I live in a country where I don't have to prostrate myself to ANY belief to hold a job. join an organisation or vote in an election. I like that. To any employer, politician, would be leader, I can answer 'none of your business' on religious questions and carry on with my life. I hope this was helpful. Hey, i know this is off-topic but your the only sane guy here willing to discuss anything, let alone the topic; so forgive me. More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. Do you have any real proof of this? or is this one of those Gracy sayings? "99.9 percent of all fights end on wround, so one must learn ru rutsu, not other crap cause they no work. Leet beet of ru rutsu all need" Cause it all sounds like jibberish to me. Who has taken these statistics to prove any of this? So people actually collect and categorise "evil" and "street fights" to prove what works best? This may just be a popular saying that no one really means, or perhaps you were just joking, or maybe im delusional, but evil is subjective. Some of those "people" in history got just what they deserved, evil or not. In my state we would call it justice. peace over war ![]() |
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we all pray for the same god --- > Allah
all the 3 religions came from Allah but sadly some people had distortion the Bible and the Torah so Quran is the only book that hadn't been distortion but we can find some similar things between the 3 of them. i feel sorry for the people who don't believe in Allah. i am sure they will feel more better if they believe in Allah ... it is a good feeling to know that Allah is watching and protecting you.... also it is a good thing to know that there is a heaven and hell in the end. people will be jagged by Allah and they should be careful about there acts. so we should obey Allah by the way people who don't believe in Allah ... do they believe in devil ?? ( just curiosity ) |
ican feel ISLAM running in my veins-i truly hope one day that everyon's a Muslim
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Insulting words prove the weakness and voilence ...
if u want to share u must respect ur self and give the evidence..4 each letter and word unless u will be no sense those who insult Mohammed (peace upon on him ) i want from them to know the jews them seleves mention his name while they r praying and u will see them proud that they killed Jesus ...the following is the evidence ... just watch it LO-LOZ wrote: In 11-9 attack the muslims and christians Employees went to their work in the two towers , and they had murdered there. if u notice that the only were absent the Jewish Employees so whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? and how did they know? and who told them!!!! ![]() it is written in ur newspaper http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367#p20882 the truth In the events of September 11 Mohamed Atta did not, and the hijacked planes, and knives, nor grieve .. In the short film entitled annex last letter you will find the following Planes are not the passengers A private aircraft have been processed Btankat additional gas beneath them And equipped with missiles in the forefront of And Schahdonh in the film it before colliding with a direct fired missiles to occur a hole in the building in order to penetrate Such is the argument of the destruction of buildings Quote: With the architects of skyscrapers Natahti confirmed that buildings are designed against aircraft crash In 1945, a plane slammed into the clouds Bnatahp Empire State did not destroy it, but a fire in some of the roles In 1988, as I recall a jumbo jet crashed into an Israeli building of 5 floors in the Netherlands did not destroy, but just some of the fire in the building The plane, which they claimed to have crashed into the Pentagon did not destroy it, but some fire This is unlike the analyst Frenchman proved in his book that there is no plane crashed into the Pentagon Has been subsequently overlooked for news bombs that rocked the U.S. State Department and others to confine the crime in planes What really happened that there was photographed from the bottom of the bombings Skyscrapers World Trade Center in New York in conjunction with the collision of the aircraft The theme for the entire game no matter how open Ohbactha intelligence the United States and Israel for the invasion of the Islamic world And history of America in particular to fill out the killing of some of their own and some military units in order to justify military action As for the Jews, it was learned that 4000 Jews did not attend the day for their work in the buildings Jewish businessman, and sold all his shares of American Airlines flight on September 8 ![]() Real aircraft dropped over areas of uninhabited But the media is detected, then pray for one it was on its way to the White House As for Mohammed Atta and his comrades were executed them and hid their bodies as do the Mafia And claimed simply that the evidence is to find a car rented by the book in Arabic on how to fly planes Despite the confirmation of Britain's Guardian that there is no Arab name on lists of the flights Although he has been district attorney Amir Atta Abdeen Cairo, the father of Mohamed Atta, that his son had telephoned him late at night on September 11, reassure him and he lives in the city of Miami, where learning how to fly it away from New York City more than 2000 km http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbccb6nv8io&nr=1 |
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that is the truth of islam
watch this if u r not fanatic... it's in English... and if u know that the actors r the most famouse ones in hollywood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agj3cbfp3hm and this in europe part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0heftckra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnalz2jjhl8&nr=1 part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oquw_hxtay8&nr=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psak4bbl7ek part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7sajux-6a&nr=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4cljio0pq&nr=1 |
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JJT2 wrote: More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. Do you have any real proof of this? or is this one of those Gracy sayings? "99.9 percent of all fights end on wround, so one must learn ru rutsu, not other crap cause they no work. Leet beet of ru rutsu all need" Cause it all sounds like jibberish to me. Who has taken these statistics to prove any of this? So people actually collect and categorise "evil" and "street fights" to prove what works best? This may just be a popular saying that no one really means, or perhaps you were just joking, or maybe im delusional, but evil is subjective. Some of those "people" in history got just what they deserved, evil or not. In my state we would call it justice. peace over war ![]() I don't know how popular it is. I'm pretty sure it's my own words. I don't have statistics but I am a casual student of history who has read a few books that didn't have "... for dummies" in the title. the Albigensian Crusade The Crusades in the 'Holy Land' especially the 'Children's Crusade' The Inquisition The Thirty Years War That's only a short list and only really focuses on western christendom. I haven't studied the actions of Say... The Ottoman Turks as they carved an empire out of the middle east and the balkans. Nor am I fully conversant of many sins of oppression and warfare that can be attributed to Eastern Orthodoxy. (However given the turmoiled history of the east from the fall of Byzantium on, I've no doubt there's some) But if you look at any conflict up until say the 19th century. and at the very least there where clerics and chaplains of various faith effectively saying 'Praise god and pass the ammunition' and I think you'll find the majority of the ones from 18th century and prior to be, if not religiously inspired, then couched in strongly religious terms. Nor has religious conflict ended with this or other more recent centuries. Just ask the Irish. Or the people of Lebanon. so that's the backing behind my opinion as expressed in the words highlighted in blue. It's a fairly firm one, so if you don't buy it I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. (edit:) If you don't mind my asking what IS your state? |
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neko-cat wrote: we all pray for the same god --- > Allah all the 3 religions came from Allah but sadly some people had distortion the Bible and the Torah so Quran is the only book that hadn't been distortion but we can find some similar things between the 3 of them. i feel sorry for the people who don't believe in Allah. i am sure they will feel more better if they believe in Allah ... it is a good feeling to know that Allah is watching and protecting you.... also it is a good thing to know that there is a heaven and hell in the end. people will be jagged by Allah and they should be careful about there acts. so we should obey Allah by the way people who don't believe in Allah ... do they believe in devil ?? ( just curiosity ) There are way more than 3 religions on earth, there are hundreds of religions. Zoroastrianism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/zoroastrianism Raelism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ra%c3%ablism Hinduism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hinduism to name a few. |
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papagolfwhiskey wrote: JJT2 wrote: More evil has been done under the battle cry of 'God wills it' (never mind the god) than under any other banner. Do you have any real proof of this? or is this one of those Gracy sayings? "99.9 percent of all fights end on wround, so one must learn ru rutsu, not other crap cause they no work. Leet beet of ru rutsu all need" Cause it all sounds like jibberish to me. Who has taken these statistics to prove any of this? So people actually collect and categorise "evil" and "street fights" to prove what works best? This may just be a popular saying that no one really means, or perhaps you were just joking, or maybe im delusional, but evil is subjective. Some of those "people" in history got just what they deserved, evil or not. In my state we would call it justice. peace over war ![]() I don't know how popular it is. I'm pretty sure it's my own words. I don't have statistics but I am a casual student of history who has read a few books that didn't have "... for dummies" in the title. the Albigensian Crusade The Crusades in the 'Holy Land' especially the 'Children's Crusade' The Inquisition The Thirty Years War That's only a short list and only really focuses on western christendom. I haven't studied the actions of Say... The Ottoman Turks as they carved an empire out of the middle east and the balkans. Nor am I fully conversant of many sins of oppression and warfare that can be attributed to Eastern Orthodoxy. (However given the turmoiled history of the east from the fall of Byzantium on, I've no doubt there's some) But if you look at any conflict up until say the 19th century. and at the very least there where clerics and chaplains of various faith effectively saying 'Praise god and pass the ammunition' and I think you'll find the majority of the ones from 18th century and prior to be, if not religiously inspired, then couched in strongly religious terms. Nor has religious conflict ended with this or other more recent centuries. Just ask the Irish. Or the people of Lebanon. so that's the backing behind my opinion as expressed in the words highlighted in blue. It's a fairly firm one, so if you don't buy it I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. (edit:) If you don't mind my asking what IS your state? I agree that plenty of wars have been started and finished becauseo of religion. I just wouldnt say "most" wars. Becuase history class in Europe/ USA tend to focus solely on USA/ European wars. It's very Eurocentric. And i really was just being as asshole by saying this. I was just bored and saw a Gracy video and lost my cool. This wasnt even meant to be directed at you, but the Gracy is dead... My state? I live in the USA. ![]() ![]() |
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there's something to straighten out. 1st: Islamic is not a evil religion, or the religion of devil. 2nd: Please show some respect to whichever religion that people choose. It's their religion and its none of your business. 3rd: The taliban is only creating evil and destructions under the name of Islam. What they preach is not real Islam. Which bloody religion would command their own believers to self-destruct and bring all the innocents along with it??? The answer is definitely not Islam, its not the Quran. The Quran preaches peace, love all human. Everyone are brothers and sisters. 4th: Humans are a greedy species, no matter which religion. Read your history books, there are really more religion-related wars. Religion has been abused in the excuse of war several times in history, not just for the Islam. Don't tell me the Christians have never waged wars towards the Catholics? Its just history repeating itself now. Islam is being being abused by certain terrorist groups and the whole world puts it in bad light, that's all there is to it. Please go read up before discriminating the Quran without any real proofs! There can be peace between Christians and Muslims even their holy books and the religions itself are contradicting in many ways. Here in my country, people of both religions (in fact more than just these 2 religions) can co-exist in a totally peaceful and harmonious manner. Please just give each other a little more tolerance and some understandings. |
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yu_sama wrote: ok chill people! there's something to straighten out. 1st: Islamic is not a evil religion, or the religion of devil. 2nd: Please show some respect to whichever religion that people choose. It's their religion and its none of your business. 3rd: The taliban is only creating evil and destructions under the name of Islam. What they preach is not real Islam. Which bloody religion would command their own believers to self-destruct and bring all the innocents along with it??? The answer is definitely not Islam, its not the Quran. The Quran preaches peace, love all human. Everyone are brothers and sisters. 4th: Humans are a greedy species, no matter which religion. Read your history books, there are really more religion-related wars. Religion has been abused in the excuse of war several times in history, not just for the Islam. Don't tell me the Christians have never waged wars towards the Catholics? Its just history repeating itself now. Islam is being being abused by certain terrorist groups and the whole world puts it in bad light, that's all there is to it. Please go read up before discriminating the Quran without any real proofs! There can be peace between Christians and Muslims even their holy books and the religions itself are contradicting in many ways. Here in my country, people of both religions (in fact more than just these 2 religions) can co-exist in a totally peaceful and harmonious manner. Please just give each other a little more tolerance and some understandings. And if you want factual proofs, then I've got your proofs courtesy of the moderate Muslim community right here. |
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide DomFortress wrote: yu_sama wrote: ok chill people! there's something to straighten out. 1st: Islamic is not a evil religion, or the religion of devil. 2nd: Please show some respect to whichever religion that people choose. It's their religion and its none of your business. 3rd: The taliban is only creating evil and destructions under the name of Islam. What they preach is not real Islam. Which bloody religion would command their own believers to self-destruct and bring all the innocents along with it??? The answer is definitely not Islam, its not the Quran. The Quran preaches peace, love all human. Everyone are brothers and sisters. 4th: Humans are a greedy species, no matter which religion. Read your history books, there are really more religion-related wars. Religion has been abused in the excuse of war several times in history, not just for the Islam. Don't tell me the Christians have never waged wars towards the Catholics? Its just history repeating itself now. Islam is being being abused by certain terrorist groups and the whole world puts it in bad light, that's all there is to it. Please go read up before discriminating the Quran without any real proofs! There can be peace between Christians and Muslims even their holy books and the religions itself are contradicting in many ways. Here in my country, people of both religions (in fact more than just these 2 religions) can co-exist in a totally peaceful and harmonious manner. Please just give each other a little more tolerance and some understandings. And if you want factual proofs, then I've got your proofs courtesy of the moderate Muslim community right here. Lol... Ok I accept your objection. I'm not a muslim to begin with, but I know and mix around with more muslims than you do. The internet page that you linked cannot really proof anything either. There is a high chance any text can be bias. History texts are bias too. If you've studied history, you should know that. Every country writes their own text and put themselves in a good light. There's no human that would not be unbias. What is the origin of the "proof" you showed in this link? http://www.answering-islam.org/index.html To what extent is this text unbias? To what extent can people believe in every words that we read here? To believe or to trust in "proofs" is up to the individual. But as history students, we study how to differentiate bias from unbias text, what's real, and what's propaganda. Here's the thing dude, your link has too much provocative words, too much subjective words like "deceptive", "incompetence", "most glaring absurdities of islam", etc. So what makes you think you're really reading the truth? Wake up brother, you're just reading another propaganda. |
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yu_sama wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide DomFortress wrote: yu_sama wrote: ok chill people! there's something to straighten out. 1st: Islamic is not a evil religion, or the religion of devil. 2nd: Please show some respect to whichever religion that people choose. It's their religion and its none of your business. 3rd: The taliban is only creating evil and destructions under the name of Islam. What they preach is not real Islam. Which bloody religion would command their own believers to self-destruct and bring all the innocents along with it??? The answer is definitely not Islam, its not the Quran. The Quran preaches peace, love all human. Everyone are brothers and sisters. 4th: Humans are a greedy species, no matter which religion. Read your history books, there are really more religion-related wars. Religion has been abused in the excuse of war several times in history, not just for the Islam. Don't tell me the Christians have never waged wars towards the Catholics? Its just history repeating itself now. Islam is being being abused by certain terrorist groups and the whole world puts it in bad light, that's all there is to it. Please go read up before discriminating the Quran without any real proofs! There can be peace between Christians and Muslims even their holy books and the religions itself are contradicting in many ways. Here in my country, people of both religions (in fact more than just these 2 religions) can co-exist in a totally peaceful and harmonious manner. Please just give each other a little more tolerance and some understandings. And if you want factual proofs, then I've got your proofs courtesy of the moderate Muslim community right here. Lol... Ok I accept your objection. I'm not a muslim to begin with, but I know and mix around with more muslims than you do. The internet page that you linked cannot really proof anything either. There is a high chance any text can be bias. History texts are bias too. If you've studied history, you should know that. Every country writes their own text and put themselves in a good light. There's no human that would not be unbias. What is the origin of the "proof" you showed in this link? http://www.answering-islam.org/index.html To what extent is this text unbias? To what extent can people believe in every words that we read here? To believe or to trust in "proofs" is up to the individual. But as history students, we study how to differentiate bias from unbias text, what's real, and what's propaganda. Here's the thing dude, your link has too much provocative words, too much subjective words like "deceptive", "incompetence", "most glaring absurdities of islam", etc. So what makes you think you're really reading the truth? Wake up brother, you're just reading another propaganda. Furthermore, your "bias" view of a historian cannot disprove a positive historical document, which in this case are the exact quotes within the Islamic holy texts that justify lying: Provisions for lying in Islam Most Muslims are familiar with the principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are: * War is deception. * The necessities justify the forbidden. * If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two. These principles are derived from passages found in the Quran and the Hadith. In the Quran, Allah, allegedly, says: " Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89 "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225 "Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." Surah 16: 106 The noted Islamic commentator, Al-Tabary explained Surah 16:106 as a verse that had been revealed to Mohammed after he learned that Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, "If they turned, you turn." (Meaning: if they again capture you, you are allowed to deny me again.) These and similar passages from the Quran clearly reveal that Muslims' unintentional lies are forgivable and that even their intentional lies can be absolved by performing extra duties. It is also clear that if forced to do so, Muslims can lie while under oath and can even falsely deny faith in Allah, as long as they maintain the profession of faith in their hearts.(citation) |
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