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It called the big bang that should answer the first two. No I do not have a religion. what you call Ally would be called God . If there not a God then thers not a Devil fairly smiple.
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It called the big bang that should answer the first two. No I do not have a religion. what you call Ally would be called God . If there not a God then thers not a Devil fairly smiple.


but who create the big bang ??

you are following the devil with out knowing it ....
you are smart and you should know the truth before it is too late.
if you know the rules of how people should live in Islam .... you will see a big different about some Muslim people and about Islam
don't mix between some Muslim people and Islam ....
Islam is amazing
when you will read more about it you will know why we have that rules in Islam
if all people follow that rules believe me the world will became a better place ....
you know it is a sign that the judgment day is near
some thing that our prophet told as a long time ago
he told as the signs that when we will see it means the judgment day is near
one of that signs is there will be a lot of people will be killed with out knowing why they are killed and who kill them they also don't know why they killed them .... and that is happening in some counters in the world ......
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tarakelly wrote:

Well my mother and father had sex just like most animals in the world it call reporduction.


ok who create the earth ??
who create the universe ??

but you didn't answer me
you don't have a religion ??
you don't believe in Allah??
do you believe in devil ?


Gasses in space gather into Giant masses of balls do to gravity, once enough mass, is gathered on a single area, the Gravitational force of that mass becomes so tense that it creates a nuclear fusion reaction, that unites the Giant object into a ball of burning Plasma.
This is known how suns are made! With no need of a God, heaver forms of matter thrown out from the creation of the sun mixed with gasses that are left behind during the creation of the sun gets trapped in the suns gravity fields and gather into balls wile circling the sun. This is what is known as planets.

Yes this great and all powerful device that created All the Stars, and Planets/moons. Is known as Gravity.

The Big Bang is do to a singularity! Singularities can be found in Black holes. Most likely the universe is recycled matter from a former universe, that is created from another universe before it an so on. Being matter can not vanish out of existence, just be changed from one form to another. Hence the BIG BOUNCE! In the Center of the Universe is a Monster size Black hole, this was created do two intense gravity and heat, from a considerable amount of force/matter being built up in one spot, so much so that the force and energy it created sent matter hurled to the outwards creating the universe we know now. Leaving behind a massive black hole in the center of it.
we are still expanding, but in time are expansion will slow, and the giant black hole will slowly draw the universe back in on it self gathering all the matter again into a single point.. creating the Next Big bang. And then everything will start all over..

Life is not that uncommon the possibility of life starting in are galaxy do two chemical reactions is more likely than it is for it not to happen dealing with the amount of time their is to work with.

At that 99.99999% of Scientist agree that its most likely that life can be found everywhere out there in all the matter filled space.

All this with no need of a God. SO why do we need a god again? An what did it do for us? Wen life and the planet is explainable without a god?


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neko-cat wrote:


tarakelly wrote:

Well my mother and father had sex just like most animals in the world it call reporduction.


ok who create the earth ??
who create the universe ??

but you didn't answer me
you don't have a religion ??
you don't believe in Allah??
do you believe in devil ?


Gasses in space gather into Giant masses of balls do to gravity, once enough mass, is gathered on a single area, the Gravitational force of that mass becomes so tense that it creates a nuclear fusion reaction, that unites the Giant object into a ball of burning Plasma.
This is known how suns are made! With no need of a God, heaver forms of matter thrown out from the creation of the sun mixed with gasses that are left behind during the creation of the sun gets trapped in the suns gravity fields and gather into balls wile circling the sun. This is what is known as planets.

Yes this great and all powerful device that created All the Stars, and Planets/moons. Is known as Gravity.

The Big Bang is do to a singularity! Singularities can be found in Black holes. Most likely the universe is recycled matter from a former universe, that is created from another universe before it an so on. Being matter can not vanish out of existence, just be changed from one form to another. Hence the BIG BOUNCE! In the Center of the Universe is a Monster size Black hole, this was created do two intense gravity and heat, from a considerable amount of force/matter being built up in one spot, so much so that the force and energy it created sent matter hurled to the outwards creating the universe we know now. Leaving behind a massive black hole in the center of it.
we are still expanding, but in time are expansion will slow, and the giant black hole will slowly draw the universe back in on it self gathering all the matter again into a single point.. creating the Next Big bang. And then everything will start all over..

Life is not that uncommon the possibility of life starting in are galaxy do two chemical reactions is more likely than it is for it not to happen dealing with the amount of time their is to work with.

At that 99.99999% of Scientist agree that its most likely that life can be found everywhere out there in all the matter filled space.

All this with no need of a God. SO why do we need a god again? An what did it do for us? Wen life and the planet is explainable without a god?





so you also don't have a religion ??
sounds bad
don't you believe in judgment day?
don't you believe in heaven and hell ??

how can such a cool earth with amazing creatures be created with out some one??
how can that be possible ??
who create your brain ?? who create your body parts?? who create your inside parts of your body ?? who create your eyes ?? that make you see the world?? who create your ears ?? and make you listen ...
don't you should thank Allah for what you have ??

it sad to see someone who don't believe in Allah
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You want to stop Muslims from coming to your country then why we don’t stop your religion people to came to our country … you just say that Muslims kill other people didn’t you ask yourself who start the killing ??!!! other people from your religion also kill Muslim people and we didn’t hate all the people from your religion because not all people are the same…..
That doesn't explain the barbaric "honor killing" commanded by the Islamic faith onto Muslim women and children:

Dictums of Quran and Hadiths which may dictate/incite honor killing:

Quran- 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.”

Quran-24:2 “The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication—flog each of them with hundred stripes: Let no compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the last day.”

Quran-17:32 “ Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).

Quran-33:33 “stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display.” (citation)
This is different than killing out for revenge or glory, for there's no real challenge in killing those who are weak and defenseless within their own community. Thereby it's simply an act out of intolerance and malice.
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first of all the web site is blocked
i didn't understand why you put that sentences from Quran??
they are all talking about lewdness
and lewdness is forbidden so there should be a punishment for people who do it.
or else no one will follow the rules
to make the world a better place and no one comet adultery... there should be a hard punishment

but as you can see ---> (the evidence of four witness ) there should be 4 witness
and that what make Allah equitable and merciful
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killing those who are weak and defenseless within their own community.

sorry i didn't understand it
can you give me some examples ??
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Lol... I wonder if you really hear yourself at all...
I do not seek to disprove the Quran or the Bible or the Holy scriptures or any holy books of any religions!
Hey dude, stop switching the subject around. You know well what I meant. I meant the link you gave:

http://www.answering-islam.org/index.html

is a propaganda, I meant this particular source you showed here as a "proof" to your argument is not a valid proof. Why?
Because:

Firstly, it is an obvious one-sided "discussion"
it consist of a one-sided view of only one party (Christianity), and no view of the other party )Islam).
Just this first point alone can show that this source is highly possible of being bias towards Christianity and is therefore not a fair proof.

Secondly, like I mentioned before, there are many provocative and subjective words that were used in the source.
They are words that can stir up emotions. And in looking at a fair, unbias evidence, means is to look for a source that DOES NOT include words as such.

So in conclusion, your source is not a fair one and cannot be used as evidence, it is a propaganda.


And please read what you just posted again.
You accused Islam of approving lies in their holy text. Yes lying is not good, but that also depends on what kind of lies and the situation we are talking about. You want truth? Here is the truth:


" Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89

This is common in many religions. Preaching about others before self.I'm sure your religion would preach this too. What's your problem with this? Helping the weak, saving them even if it's beyond your means. it is good isn't it? If you do so, God can see it and good things will come round to you. Many religions preach this, although it may be in different manners or phrase it differently, they are all fundamentally the same: Do upon others what you want others to do upon you.

"Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." Surah 16: 106

This means that whoever betrays the Faith would get punished by Allah correct? Fair enough, its the same as your religion I believe. But then again you quoted:
Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, "If they turned, you turn."
This means the Quran mentions lies and "betrayal of faith" in this way is acceptable. However it is obvious that Ammar lied about the betrayal. He lied that he does not believe in Mohammed because he chose to survive.

Tell me brother, if you were in Ammar's shoes, would you not do the same thing? Given the choice between a terrible death or to deny your faith, which would you choose? Please, anyone who is sane would choose to live. Even those who have deep faith. Faith is not superficial I believe. Therefore verbal denial of faith doesn't necessarily means the real denial of faith. So what if you lie? At least you get to live! If your all so powerful and loving God cannot even tolerate this little bit of lie, I don't know what to make out of your religion. But I'm sure being the all-loving God, He would have wanted you to act like Ammar, to choose to live. Because He loves you, He would want you to live.


Simple as that. I don't see why you are getting so worked up over Holy text allowing white lies.
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I'm not trying to diss Islam or any other religions but I can't agree with you.
Choosing your own religion is the individual's own freedom of choice. Just like how you love your religion and believes in it so much, there are others who believes in their own religions too. And not all religions comes with the package of God. Take for example, Confucianism. It does not worship God/Gods of any sorts but instead teaches the philosophies Life and Wisdom of mankind. Science, to a certain extent, may also be a kind of religion. One that does not require the imagination of a God. Instead in believing that everything comes from God, they believe that everything comes from physics, chemistry, biology. Something that we can all study and understand.

It is not pitiable that we have no religions, that we have no God/Gods to believe in. It is also not true that Allah (Islam) or God (Christianity) is the only God. Please read up more, open up your horizons. And you'll see the world in a different point of view. The world does not revolve around any single religion and it is not sad if certain people does not believe in Allah because they believe in other Gods.

There are many speculations on how the world came about. In Science, they believe the Big Bang is the beginning of everything; In Christianity and Islam, they believe their respective God/Allah created everything; in Taoism, they believe everything is born out of nothingness, yes even the gods were once humans. Whichever the case, they are all speculations and it is beyond human intelligence to comprehend or to ever find out how everything we know as came about. Even the evolution theory is merely a hypothesis, there is no real proof to anything. That is why people choose to believe. Because if they believe, they'll grasp onto something that they want it to be true. And therefore religion is here, something that we can grasp hold of, and science the same.
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neko-cat wrote:

we all pray for the same god --- > Allah
all the 3 religions came from Allah
but sadly some people had distortion the Bible and the Torah
so Quran is the only book that hadn't been distortion
but we can find some similar things between the 3 of them.

i feel sorry for the people who don't believe in Allah.
i am sure they will feel more better if they believe in Allah ... it is a good feeling to know that Allah is watching and protecting you....
also it is a good thing to know that there is a heaven and hell in the end.
people will be jagged by Allah and they should be careful about there acts.
so we should obey Allah

by the way people who don't believe in Allah ... do they believe in devil ?? ( just curiosity )


There are way more than 3 religions on earth, there are hundreds of religions.

Zoroastrianism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
Raelism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
Hinduism --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism

to name a few.


i know that
but they are human made religions


All religions are human made.

The universe is 14 billion years old, Earth is 4 billion years old, humans are 2 million years old, religion is 250,000 years old.

Humans haven't been around as long as the earth or the universe. Therefor humans invented it later on. If any god created the Universe, Earth and Humans all at the same time Earth would only be 2 million years old or humans would be 14 billion years old, and there not.
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so you also don't have a religion ??
sounds bad
don't you believe in judgment day?
don't you believe in heaven and hell ??

how can such a cool earth with amazing creatures be created with out some one??
how can that be possible ??


who create your brain ?? who create your body parts?? who create your inside parts of your body ?? who create your eyes ?? that make you see the world?? who create your ears ?? and make you listen ...

don't you should thank Allah for what you have ??

it sad to see someone who don't believe in Allah


Study of how life on earth came to be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis


In natural science, abiogenesis (pronounced /ˌeɪbaɪ.ɵˈdʒɛnɨsɪs/, AY-bye-oh-JEN-ə-siss) or biopoesis is the study of how life on Earth could have arisen from inanimate matter. It should not be confused with evolution, which is the study of how groups of already living things change over time, or with cosmogony, which covers how the universe might have arisen. Most amino acids, often called "the building blocks of life", can form via natural chemical reactions unrelated to life, as demonstrated in the Miller–Urey experiment and similar experiments, which involved simulating some of the conditions of the early Earth, in a scientific laboratory.[1] In all living things, these amino acids are organized into proteins, and the construction of these proteins is mediated by nucleic acids. Which of these organic molecules first arose and how they formed the first life is the focus of abiogenesis.



Study of how living things changed over time(how you got your brain and eyes and arms and shit)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution


Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations, and evolutionary biology is the study of how evolution occurs.

The biodiversity of life evolves by means of natural selection, mutations and genetic drift. The principles of natural selection are based on three factual observations. First, every individual is supplied with hereditary material in the form of genes that are received from their parents; then, passed on to their offspring. Second, organisms tend to produce more offspring than the environment can support. Third, there are variations among offspring as a consequence of either the random introduction of new genes via mutations or reshuffling of existing genes during sexual reproduction


Study of how the universe came to be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmogony


Cosmogony, or cosmogeny, is any theory concerning the coming into existence or origin of the universe, or about how reality came to be. The word comes from the Greek κοσμογονία (or κοσμογενία), from κόσμος "cosmos, the world", and the root of γί(γ)νομαι / γέγονα "to be born, come about". In the specialized context of space science and astronomy, the term refers to theories of creation of (and study of) the Solar System.


General knowledge on the universe


The Universe is commonly defined as the totality of everything that exists,[1] including all physical matter and energy, the planets, stars, galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space[2][3], although this usage may differ with the context (see definitions, below). The term Universe may be used in slightly different contextual senses, denoting such concepts as the cosmos, the world, or nature.

Observations of earlier stages in the development of the universe, which can be seen at great distances, suggest that the Universe has been governed by the same physical laws and constants throughout most of its extent and history.


And the universe is ungodly huge, 78 billion light years.

1,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers from known edge to known edge. And that's only the universe we can see from here on earth, the actual universe is probably much much bigger.

It contains tens of billions of galaxies just like our own. Each one of those galaxies contains 100 billion stars just like the sun. Many many of those may have planets like earth.

Watch the following

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0lxbzgwW7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr7wNQw12l8



And science already knows how the Earth came to be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Earth

Beginning


Starting with the Earth's formation by accretion from the solar nebula 4.54 billion years ago (4.54 Ga), the first eon in the Earth's history is called the Hadean. It lasted until the Archaean eon, which began 3.8 Ga. The oldest rocks found on Earth date to about 4.0 Ga, and the oldest detrital zircon crystals in some rocks have been dated to about 4.4 Ga, close to the formation of the Earth's crust and the Earth itself. Because not much material from this time is preserved, little is known about Hadean times, but scientists hypothesize at an estimated 4.53 Ga, shortly after formation of an initial crust, the proto-Earth was impacted by a smaller protoplanet, which ejected part of the mantle and crust into space and created the Moon


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_%28astrophysics%29


Formation of the solar system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System


The formation and evolution of the Solar System is estimated to have begun 4.55 to 4.56 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud. Most of the collapsing mass collected in the centre, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which the planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.
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Darkphoenix3450 i don't have any problem with u ...but we r discusing the same points..
im not like u had said ..i know the turth ...and i like to show it 4 all humanbeings ..

our prophet Mohammed said :((any muslim hurts others without reason i'll judge him in the dayafter))..

our greeting in islam is ((aslam alekom wa rahmt Allah wa barkatoh)) which means peace , mercy and blessing from Allah upon u..
so is this voilence ??

this words is not only 4 u...
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also you don't believe in god!!!!!!!!!!! that is shocking me
what is your point of all of that ?
when Allah created the first human on earth ---> man = Adam and woman = Haoa
of course they knew that Allah created them and they pray for Allah
after that people didn't believe in Allah and they start praying for stone or sun or caw or whatever
then Allah send a lot of prophets
they all try to make people pray for Allah and so on
people start to became more and more so they need a religion to make there life easy
to arrange the people life and make them feel happy and they know that Allah is watching and protecting them.
there is only 3 religions came from Allah
but 2 of them has been distortion
Allah protect Quran from distortion so people had memorize it and write it so many times
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The Big Bang is do to a singularity! Singularities can be found in Black holes. Most likely the universe is recycled matter from a former universe, that is created from another universe before it an so on. Being matter can not vanish out of existence, just be changed from one form to another. Hence the BIG BOUNCE! In the Center of the Universe is a Monster size Black hole, this was created do two intense gravity and heat, from a considerable amount of force/matter being built up in one spot, so much so that the force and energy it created sent matter hurled to the outwards creating the universe we know now. Leaving behind a massive black hole in the center of it.
we are still expanding, but in time are expansion will slow, and the giant black hole will slowly draw the universe back in on it self gathering all the matter again into a single point.. creating the Next Big bang. And then everything will start all over..



IIRC from my cosmology lectures (which is going back a few years now) the universe is currently believed to have a density very close to the "critical density", meaning that it will expand indefinitely rather than collapsing back into a central point.

Whether or not our universe had predecessors in which the density was greater than the critical density (which would result in the expansion becoming contraction) is another matter, and possibly unknowable.

A question that does arise is, if our universe is a rebirth of another universe, which in turn was born from another universe, and so on, what caused the chain of universes to begin? Does the chain stretch back through an infinite number of universes or was there a "first cause"?

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it is science but who create the science
maybe you should know about the miracles in our Quran
you should know what our prophet told as from 1400 years ago and now the science has discovered it

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