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Are you sick of kpop artists debuting in the jpop industry

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Posted 9/11/11 , edited 9/11/11

Well they have to strike while the iron is hot. Idols have a lifespan, they can't wait around writing and experimenting with new meterial hoping it will be popular when they already have a library full of tried and tested hit songs. It would be a total waste of popularity having to start at the bottom of the ladder just so they can have brand new songs.
Japan is the 2nd largest music industry so of course they are going to try and make it big there.
You wouldn't expect a foreign artist to try make it in the US without translating their music into english do you?
Most of these idols relese brand new Japanese tracks later on when their popularity rises in Japan anyway so I have no idea what you're complaining about.
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24 / F / Canada
Posted 9/25/11 , edited 9/25/11
Not Really...Except Kara...No offense.
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25 / M / Shah Alam, Selangor
Posted 9/30/11 , edited 10/1/11
no, since japan is the largest music industry in asia. the music industry is second in the world to united states which also produce the most english-language songs.
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36 / M / Canada
Posted 10/1/11 , edited 10/1/11
I agree that artists like BoA did the best thing by creating more original J-Pop songs. BoA crossed over to the J-pop industry with much success by doing that. And she certainly honed her Japanese language skills that helped her prepare for her huge success in Japan. Although she paid the price by being away from her family and friends in Korea for the longest time. Even with her US debut pretty much all her English songs were fresh new tracks aside from the English version of Girls On Top. But I think BoA was a little rushed with a lot of her past English version songs when her English wasn't even up to par yet. Her English has improved since then so I hope she'll have more success in the US. The newer artists should follow her example and give themselves more time to hone their skills before jumping into anything. But of course it's always about more profit for the producers and labels.
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Posted 10/15/11 , edited 10/15/11
I think they're trying to conquer the J-Pop industry with the reused songs that sound nicer in Korean.
If they want to debut in Japan, I'd rather prefer the Korean artists to produce a whole new song that isn't merely just 'translated' over.
Agencies just want money and more profits, haters can't blame the artists but blame the companies and agencies instead.

At the same time, Kpop is becoming more and more famous in Japan because of the increasing demand for it too. However, in my personal opinion, I think it has already gone passed the boundaries where I see Kpop bands or korean-related in most of the Tv programmes. Look at what happened to Hey!x3.

what can we do? i'm sick of it too, but im afraid i'll have to wait for the hallyu wave to die down...
i'm sick of seeing kpop everywhere here in singapore too, not that i have anything against it, but it's really too much!
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23 / F / Scotland
Posted 12/5/11 , edited 12/5/11
I'm not sick of it. The people who are sick of it's justifications always strikes me as a tiny bit racist.

I think it's fine, there's a huge Hallyu wave going in Japan, why waste the cahcne?
Japan has a huge music industry which brings in tons of cash. If the companies can rake in some of that cash for themselves, whose going to blame them for taking a chance at it?

My personal opinion, though, is that some companies aren't debuting with the right methods.
SMEnt's methods are fine, I think. They use old songs but make them work in Japanese, and just do what they can to appeal to Japanese audiences. Like, with SHINee, they gave Taemin more screentime and got some of Johngyun's lines in Juliette, which pissed off many Jjong fangirls, but it can't be helped - Taemin is popular in Japan, there are things about him that go down well in Japan. And, after their groups prove to be selling well, they release a ton of original tracks. SNSD's Shoujo Jidai album is an example of this. This is one of the reasons why DBSK remain as one of the most popular K-Pop groups in Japan. Wait, screw that, they're one the most popular groupd in Japan, full stop.

YG had a good method with BIGBANG, it just doesn't look like 2NE1 are hitting down the same way. Instead of recycling an obvious single, they released a Japanese version of an album track. I swear they still don't have a Japanese version of Lies. It was something different and original. And after their first single, they went straight to original tracks, bringing out brand new and exciting tracks that appealed greatly to the Japanese public, while retaining that same style that made BIGBANG what they are today.

DSP also have a fairly strong method. At leats, where the language is concerned. Most groups debut with poor Japanese, like SNSD or Secret (though, BIGBANG also had good Japanese, and 2NE1's CL did too, but thta's cause she lived there as a child), but I've yet to see a DSP group do this. KARA, SS501 and Rainbow all debuted with decent Japanese. Even Kim HyunJoong, the weakest in Japanese in SS501, still had better Japanese than a number of other K-Pop artists.
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Posted 12/6/11 , edited 12/7/11
I'm tired of the lazy remakes, yes. However, if it's a good remake (Like KARA's Mister or anything by SNSD), I'm pretty fine with it. However, if we get songs like READY GO by 4minute and Jet Coaster Love by Kara, I'm fine with it. Actually, I kind of like it more because I can sing to them =w=
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19 / F / United States
Posted 6/2/12 , edited 6/3/12
I don't mind c;
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Posted 7/27/12 , edited 7/27/12

Pergamaster wrote:

It sucks...but you know what I'm really sick of?
Most of the threads in the music-forum. There's a difference in discussing music in general and talking about who's the cutest member/who's the best dancer/does he like onions?
That's fandom, not music.

Absolutely right. I can't stand the boy band fangirls and how obsessed they get. For those of us who aren't teen girls and want to discuss music, it makes it hard to find discussions.

If I come across as bitter, it's because I probably am. I've lost friends over this kind of girl in particular, she got so obsessed that she never talked about anything else, every time I talked to her and asked what she's doing, she's watching their videos, every time we hung out, she showed me their videos, all her socks have the band members on them, ditto for shirts, posters, wallpaper on her phone and computers.

That level of obsession isn't healthy, and I see it all over the place with fangirls of boy bands, especially Korean ones.
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Posted 8/30/12 , edited 8/30/12
They should make their names on the korean industry first before going anywhere else.
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36 / F / Buried under a pi...
Posted 9/1/12 , edited 9/1/12
I don't care who the artist is. If I like the music, I will buy/listen to it. If I don't like a particular artist's music, I don't listen to it or buy it. I listen to whatever music I like/makes me feel good. I think music should make a person feel happy, whatever it is.
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Posted 9/3/12 , edited 9/4/12
Me myself?
Yes, I am quite tired of it.
I was okay with it before, when the artist's tried.
When the music released was better.
I'm not saying this to offend anyone but I am sick of it.
The country itself is sick of it.
To the point where they just don't want kpop on their broadcasts anymore?
You know something's wrong at that point.
I'm not speaking for everyone, this is my personal opinion on the matter.
Of course there a a handful of artists I support that have already ventured into Japan and I wish them good luck but
insanity that's been going on lately is just no.
Groups who haven't even made a name yet in their native country debuting in Japan makes no sense to me.
And the debuting in Nippon Budokan or Tokyo Dome just irritates me senseless.
Even though I support some of the artists that perform there, I sincerely think they are not ready for it.
They do not deserve it yet.
Artists work so hard to be able to play in such arenas yet this kind of stuff happens.

My opinion though, like I said. (^__^)/
Posted 9/27/12 , edited 9/27/12
I have respect for groups like Tohoshinki. They made a name for themselves in Korea before promoting in Japan. In Japan they started from the bottom, as if they were rookies all over again, and worked hard to earn the recognition they deserved. Tohoshinki was the first Korean group to perform in Tokyo Dome, furthermore they were actually invited to perform there as opposed to requesting to perform there. Tohoshinki was the epitome of the "Hallyu Wave" - through their hard work Korean music was able to break into other music industries. Yet I agree with xiluvJaejoongie's point. It seems as though now-a-days Korean entertainment companies are throwing newly debuted groups or groups that are popular in Korea (like Big Bang, SNSD and SHINee) into Japan in order to gain fame by riding off of the hard work and the foundation that Tohoshinki built for Korean music in Japan. It feels like they are simply abusing that break through now in order to earn more money. It's some what disappointing now.
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Posted 10/1/12 , edited 10/2/12
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