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Why Non-Japanese Otakus should NEVER visit Japan
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Posted 5/4/13 , edited 5/5/13
maybe a foreign people seem act strange when they actually arrive at akihabara,

they dont like srange people wear some custome robot or something
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Posted 5/5/13 , edited 5/5/13
That's a bit extreme, and from what i read skimming through it, mainly wrong.

It's really only stubborn or the old old (dying) generation that really views foreigners that way, and there aren't that many of them left. How many of those people you meet will also largely depend on the region you go to. The younger/middle generation are much more open (if not completely open) to americans. They may say gaijin but it is not necessary in such an ill intention. It really just a literal saying of outsider, which you are.
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Posted 5/7/13 , edited 11/27/15
The plural form of otaku is otaku.
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F / Philippines
Posted 5/9/13 , edited 5/10/13
I visited Japan just last month for the first time. I was expecting the usual xenophobia everyone warns people about in Japan. But while I was there with my family, we felt none of that. We were welcomed warmly and treated without any rudeness.

But I would advised hardcore non-Japanese otakus not to be too open with their "otakuness". While I was there, I rarely saw anything related to anime, not including Akihabara of course.
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32 / Aincrad Floor 61
Posted 5/12/13 , edited 5/12/13
I definitely plan to go to Japan at some point in my life, probably take a couple months and try to make a tour of Asia. Japan, Korea, China, Vietnam, Thailand.

I love anime and definitely will enjoy my time in Akihabara, and I most definitely will be excited and buy some things, but like has been said, don't be crazy! There are racists among the Japanese (and Koreans) just like any country but for the most part, I would say many are very welcoming as long as you are chill.
Posted 5/12/13 , edited 5/12/13
The OP is silly... very very very silly. How very silly of you.
In fact, it's a tiny bit comical and I did giggle at some of the stuff that was said.
Not all of us are as silly as you are I'm afraid my dear, thankfully.


Did I mention how silly it was?
I saw a baby duck riding a tortoise on youtube the other day... you are way sillier.

I just can't take the OP seriously, sorry.

I even had my friend who is from Japan read the OP and everything that was mentioned was completely alien to her. You should have seen her face. It's so far from the truth.
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28 / M / Gotemba,Shizuoka,...
Posted 5/13/13 , edited 5/13/13

rukialuvr93 wrote:

If you're on Crunchyroll, you probably like anime. You might even like Japanese culture...including all the non-anime-related things. Some of you may want to actually go to Japan someday. I used to be like that. I always told myself that once I got a job I would start saving for a trip to Japan. Now, i'm spending my saved money. Why? Because I have no interest to go there. Why not? That's what I'm here to talk about and hopefully it changes YOUR mind as well about visiting our beloved Japan.

I have a friend who is so into anime and Japanese culture that he's spent literally the last 8 years of his life actually studying it in his free time. I suggested to him that we go to Japan together and he told me no way. I asked why and this is what he told me.

"Japanese people really don't like outsiders," he said. If you have seen the movie The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift you will have heard this word they have for them. It's called "gaijin". In that movie, while DK WAS indeed being a d**k, and most Japanese people wouldn't be in your face about it like DK was, his reaction wasn't un-relatable to one of a real Japanese society. Also, being an otaku adds insult to injury. It's hard to explain, but they view it as offensive for a gaijin to embrace that. My friend also told me, "They also haven't forgotten what the U.S. did to them in World War II, and they are still pretty pissed off about it."The United States killed over 800,000 Japanese citizens with the atomic bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. I honestly wouldn't have forgotten this easily as well.

The best way for me to explain this is to relate it to something us Americans have experienced.

I'm sure most Americans havn't forgotten about the tragedy that occured on September 11th, 2001. Most Americans were suspicious of any Muslim they saw on US soil after that. So picture this scenario.

It has been 1 year after the WTC attacks, and it is still fresh in Americans minds. Then, out in public, you spot a Muslim guy dressed in an American flag suit talking to some other Muslims how much he loves The Simpsons, Nicole Kidman and Budweiser.

Wouldn't that upset you a little bit? Of course, it is wrong to label all Muslims as terrorists because they make up a minute minority of the whole Muslim culture. I actually know a Muslim personally and he's actually one of the nicest guys I ever met.

All agenda about Muslims aside, the reaction that Japanese people have to Americans otakus is very similar to the reaction someone in the scenario I described would have. The only difference is they are already iffy about foreigners in the first place, and although its been almost 50 years since we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the time has not healed their wounds. At best, we are tolerated.

This is why I vowed not to go to Japan. My friend and I love and respect Japan so much that we refuse to disgrace their native land by stepping foot onto it. We gladly take the blame of our ancestors that ravished them in the 1940s and we will continue to serve their punishment until we can be forgiven...if such a thing is even possible.

So there you have it. That's why you should not go to Japan, especially if you are an American show your true respect for the nation of Japan. If you say you love their culture but then disgrace it by setting foot there, you are really just a hypocrite, whether you realize it or not. If you REALLY love Japan, understand why you can't show your face there and admire them from a distance. If you are NOT from the U.S., it's still iffy to go there, but it probably won't be AS bad...especially if you have Japanese ancestry. This goes for saying if you ARE a U.S. citizen as well. Japanese people believe in blood ties. It won't lighten their feelings toward you significantly, but it probably will help.

So tell me what you guys think about this. Post some responses!

I live in japan. I am american. I love anime. Japanese people are actually obsessed with american culture especially the younger generations. Everything you said is completely invalid.
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Posted 5/13/13 , edited 5/14/13

Alchemist4 I live in japan. I am american. I love anime. Japanese people are actually obsessed with american culture especially the younger generations. Everything you said is completely invalid.

^This, exactly it.

As someone who goes to Japan about once every month or two, I agree completely.

I am going to give the original OP benefit of the doubt and hope this is a trolling thread and that we've all been magnificently fooled by the premise of this entire conversation. That being said, I can spare myself the long rant about how off base OPs post is.

PS I might add Japan is an amazing place to visit. I have taken several of my uninterested friends and family members out there and they always leave loving it and wanting to go back.
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28 / M
Posted 5/30/13 , edited 5/31/13
Been living in Japan for bout half a year... I may have experience one instance of American hate... But honestly what you said is all BS. Maybe if you went to Sapporo or anywhere in Hokkaido, you might experience it there. However Hokkaido is like the last bastion of the old ways (perhaps racist in a dramatic way), no offense to anyone who comes from Hokkaido, but it's true. Anywhere else and you have some pretty nice people. Maybe if you are in tourist traps, sometimes the shop keepers can be douches, but if you can speak some Japanese and follow social norms, you'll be accepted pretty quickly.

You should never listen to someone's words, even if they are your friends. You need to experience it first hand.

By the way, Otaku here in Tokyo are freaking awesome. I've met a whole group, they even taught me their Otaku dances. So yeah, being a foreign Otaku is definitely possible.
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28 / M / The OC
Posted 5/30/13 , edited 6/2/15

rukialuvr93 wrote:

If you're on Crunchyroll, you probably like anime.

No shit
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24 / M / Red Dot City
Posted 6/2/13 , edited 6/3/13
We all have different experiences..
The whole "Fast & Furious" gaijin to the face thing is odd to the Japanese society as you said

But lets not compare Japanese to Americans..
Americans are more blunt and uptight (sorry if it offends anyone)
The Japanese are more respecting and mind their own business...
They wouldn't care who was in Japan..
What matters is your apart of the society in a good manner (like working and obeying laws)
Like everywhere else in the world

This whole "World War II" thing is all in the past and sure few would bring it up..
Like 9/11 its just plane not funny..

But from reading the whole thing.. never once was there "my experiences when I went to japan"..
We all can expect different things from going there.. But you gotta learn to move on and go about yourself...

I'm still planning on first visiting Japan to clear things about moving there..
Who knows what the future would hold..
Plus I'm not American(im a US citizen).. But I'm sure the Japanese wouldnt guess it if I told them..
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25 / M / California
Posted 6/2/13 , edited 6/3/13
I'm going to enjoy desecrating Japan with my filthy footsteps- even going as far as learning their language like the heretic I am.
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42 / M
Posted 6/3/13 , edited 6/3/13
I encountered zero problems in Japan when I was there last. In fact, out of my travelling party I was the one who knew the LEAST about Anime, Japanese culture, and knew maybe 2 or 3 complete phrases. But because I was the least shy, I ended up being the US AMBASSADOR for the 3 of us.

I encountered zero problems. And we were all over the place from shopping for toys to hanging out in seedy smoke-filled arcades to wandering through a couple of temples.

I'm going back this weekend, and I expect it'll be more of the same (lack of) problems. If anything, I should practice my smile and polite daijoubu for the times when I encounter someone who feels awkward because they don't speak MY language in THEIR country.
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36 / M / So Cal
Posted 6/3/13 , edited 6/3/13

sushipath wrote:

Wow. Just, wow. I'm going to assume you're sincere as I've no reason to necessarily think otherwise. However, if your posted age is accurate, at 19 years, you deserve some leeway...

This ^

At that age, most youths think they've got it all figured out. Their minds are ruled by passion and ignorance. Not to insult the guy, I was the same way. It's just a part of being that age.

Aside from his bigotry and that not all Japanese are the same, I agree with you that you can't judge a nation's people without thoroughly experiencing their culture and mannerisms.

There's this belief that Chinese still hate the Japanese for their transgressions during WWII. This is not true. Until the recent government propaganda to hate Japanese, in order to get that retarded, almost useless island back, Chinese had no ill feelings towards the Japanese.

Most of my friends in China had Japanese friends, one even married a Japanese man, while another is being pressured by her parents to do the same.
The same can be said of the Japanese views on America. They do like us. Our culture, our freely-given assistance, ect. Some of them may not like outsiders, but those that do aren't specifically bigoted towards Americans, rather to ALL outsiders. It's the same here in the states or any other country.

As you said, since he's still in that, "I already know the world" phase I'm not going to judge him. I'm assuming he lives in the south or central US, so I'll just hope for his future enlightenment.
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48 / M / Bay Area, CA, USA
Posted 6/3/13 , edited 6/3/13
I've encountered very provincial attitudes in coastal cities too (e.g. San Francisco, where I did my medical training-- for all its pride as a cosmopolitan city, which in general it is, a fair number of people have never left the Bay Area for any significant amount of time, consider the Bay Area the pinnacle of America, and the rest of the country as filled with unenlightened hicks). Anyway, the cure, in part, is learning-- first hand, if at all possible-- and a critical and yet open mind. At 19, the journey is still in the early stages. Heck, even at 42, the biggest intellectual mistake I could make is probably to think I've figured it all out even now.

Specifically on topic: I reiterate my suggestion-- go to Japan, have a good (and responsible) time, and see for yoruself.
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