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2012 ★ BATTLE

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Posted 5/31/13 , edited 6/1/13

kuuderes_shadow wrote:

More likely you're just upset that your personal favourite did badly/isn't doing well, and so decided to use the cliche excuses.

Nah, I won't be a sore loser. But I might joke about my own loss.

But going by the three most prominent factors per show...

Kokoro Connect: psychological slice-of-life involving high school students.
Sakurasou: slice-of-life comedy involving high school students.
Shin Sekai Yori: psychological fantasy involving high school students.
Space Brothers: slice-of-life comedy involving adults.

Breaking down the factors...

Adults: 1 (Space Brothers).
Comedy: 2 (Sakurasou and Space Brothers).
Fantasy: 1 (Shin Sekai Yori).
High School Students: 3 (Kokoro Connect, Sakurasou, and Shin Sekai Yori).
Psychological: 2 (Kokoro Connect and Shin Sekai Yori).
Slice-of-Life: 3 (Kokoro Connect, Sakurasou, and Space Brothers).

(1+2+1+3+2+3) / 6 = average score of 2.

Strong Factors (3): High School Students and Slice-of-Life.
Average Factors (2): Comedy and Psychological.
Weak Factors (1): Adults and Fantasy.

Now to apply the metric...

Psycho-Pass: psychological (2) science fiction (0) involving adults (1). Score: 3.

If you count science fiction and fantasy together it'd go up to 4.

Kokoro Connect: psychological (2) slice-of-life (3) involving high school students (3). Score: 8.
Sakurasou: slice-of-life (3) comedy (2) involving high school students (3). Score: 7.
Shin Sekai Yori: psychological (2) fantasy (1) involving high school students (3). Score: 6.
Space Brothers: slice-of-life (3) comedy (2) involving adults (1). Score: 6.

So I don't think my comment is far from the mark. Psycho-Pass would gain 5 points by adding high school students and comedy, and I think it's the only show left without any romance or fanservice (unless Space Brothers has none).

Without going into further detail, I was just bemoaning that particular fact, is all.

Apparently it's just too dark to win a majority vote. Which makes...


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If only Psycho-Pass had been a highschool rom-com.

... correct.
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Psycho Pass ftw

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Casting my vote for Psycho-Pass. I really enjoyed the setting, i could really imaging that happening in a dystopian future. The art fit the story, although there was nothing extra-special about it. The characters themselves ranged from a couple bland tropes, to some very very well written and thought out ones.
Overall a very good anime.
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This is probably the most difficult vote I've had to make. Psycho-Pass and Kokoro Connect were two of my favorites last year. Judging by the numbers at the time I'm posting this, it looks fairly certain Kokoro Connect will advance. I can live with that and I will gladly defend it in the next round with my vote. However, for this battle, my vote will go to Psycho-Pass.

I'll leave my assessment of Kokoro Connect for its next battle. I will say though that it was an interesting and enjoyable experience watching the series and I hope that one day CR gets the last four episodes for us to view. Now, back to the topic at hand, Psycho-Pass was my favorite thriller of last year. I loved the futuristic world it depicted and the intellectual story-telling it presented while exploring many societal and psychological themes. The series had a beautiful soundtrack with amazing Opening and Ending combos. I liked the animation but I admit that at times it would seem a bit off. As some have mentioned before, the characters in Psycho-Pass can be considered the weakest part of the show. Overall though, I feel it doesn't take away from the series as a whole. I also have the need to mention episode 11 once more because it was one of the better individual episodes of any series last year. That's just my opinion of course. I've already talked about this episode the last time I voted for Psycho-Pass so I'll just provide what I wrote then.



In closing, Psycho-Pass was a solid thriller that I enjoyed very much. And one last thing to add...


AnimeKami wrote:

The generation of serious anime is over. It is all about moe and tsunderes.




Kogami is not amused by this news. My mind is still blown that The Pet Girl of Sakurasou managed to edge out Fate/Zero.
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Anime fans as of late have been leaning towards the cuter side of anime. It isn't necessarily that either (fate/zero, sakurasou) is better than the other. Fans are simply avoiding genres that are action packed. The recommendation thread has had user request animes without action or little action.

Just blame the fans that didn't vote, lol.
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AnimeKami wrote:

Anime fans as of late have been leaning towards the cuter side of anime. It isn't necessarily that either (fate/zero, sakurasou) is better than the other. Fans are simply avoiding genres that are action packed. The recommendation thread has had user request animes without action or little action.

Just blame the fans that didn't vote, lol.


Nor does it mean that they are more popular, this is simply the subsection of people that watch anime on this website!

Do not despair, there will always be the dark actiony anime as long as people watch it :D

Some of us do like breaks from it every once and awhile though
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0nigokko wrote:

Psycho Pass ftw

Incase that dosent count;

Im casting my vote for Psycho Pass.


No man, you gotta give the reason why you're voting for Psycho-Pass. Just a little critical comment or two will do. You can't just say you liked it, or the vote is null.
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TrueGoober wrote:


0nigokko wrote:

Psycho Pass ftw

Incase that dosent count;

Im casting my vote for Psycho Pass.


No man, you gotta give the reason why you're voting for Psycho-Pass. Just a little critical comment or two will do. You can't just say you liked it, or the vote is null.


Oh! Derp on me!

Thanks! I was a bit confused reading through the directions, so many spoilers and my mind just went PFFFTFTFTFFT



Changing it now!

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Pyscho Pass - It felt complete and well-rounded whereas Kokoro Connect had some problems with pacing and wrapping up loose ends.
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People will like what anime they like and favor the ones they enjoy the most. There's nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, we're all anime fans that enjoy watching anime.

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Kokoro Connect.

Like Sakurasou, it's a complex and emotionally effective show hidden, inexplicably, in a generic highschool rom-com package. Can't really see why you'd dislike it unless you're an action addict, or if the superficial resemblance to K-on is too distracting for some reason. I couldn't get into Psycho-Pass at all, so it gets no points from me.

And I refuse to feel bad for ditching Psycho-Pass, because I genuinely didn't like it; not because it was dark, but because it was cliche and the characters were unlikeable. Like I've said, "dark" and "serious" shows get an easy A for most English-speaking fans. I think this is because Hollywood and mainstream TV have trained us to think that depressing = quality. Those outlets produce a lot of good dramatic stuff, a lot of horrendously bad comedy, and almost nothing upbeat, so it's only natural.

But they're not the only media outlet in the world. That's what anime is for.
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ShawnHacaga wrote:

People will like what anime they like and favor the ones they enjoy the most. There's nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, we're all anime fans that enjoy watching anime.



That picture is ridiculous, and i love it.

Oh Anime how i love you, and your wackycraziness that people that dont watch Anime go "HUH?" at.
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Sorry Insomnist, but I have to call you out:

Insomnist wrote:
But going by the three most prominent factors per show...

Kokoro Connect: psychological slice-of-life involving high school students.
Sakurasou: slice-of-life comedy involving high school students.
Shin Sekai Yori: psychological fantasy involving high school students.
Space Brothers: slice-of-life comedy involving adults.

... etc.
Your ranking system here is rather arbitrary and I feel like you're trying to sell it as unbiased. Naturally this is misleading, confusing and, more generally, a larger problem in media (I'm thinking of misused statistics). I mention this because perpetuating bad practices like these annoy me, and this is one of the few times I actually get to respond to it.

However, I'm sorry for trying to stamp on your comment for my personal ease of mind.

Also:

AnimeKami wrote:

The generation of serious anime is over.
Honest question here ('cause I haven't been watching anime long enough), but has there ever been a generation of serious anime? It seems more like there is a trickle of them coming out each season to me. Of course, it would seem that way if the generation petered out.
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NetrisTess wrote:

Sorry Insomnist, but I have to call you out:

Insomnist wrote:
But going by the three most prominent factors per show...

Kokoro Connect: psychological slice-of-life involving high school students.
Sakurasou: slice-of-life comedy involving high school students.
Shin Sekai Yori: psychological fantasy involving high school students.
Space Brothers: slice-of-life comedy involving adults.

... etc.
Your ranking system here is rather arbitrary and I feel like you're trying to sell it as unbiased. Naturally this is misleading, confusing and, more generally, a larger problem in media (I'm thinking of misused statistics). I mention this because perpetuating bad practices like these annoy me, and this is one of the few times I actually get to respond to it.

However, I'm sorry for trying to stamp on your comment for my personal ease of mind.

Not a problem, just tried to break down what reasoning I had behind an otherwise flippant remark.

Is it due to my oversimplifying the basis of my conclusions or do is there a flaw with the fundamental method?
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Insomnist wrote:

But going by the three most prominent factors per show...

Kokoro Connect: psychological slice-of-life involving high school students.
Sakurasou: slice-of-life comedy involving high school students.
Shin Sekai Yori: psychological fantasy involving high school students.
Space Brothers: slice-of-life comedy involving adults.

Breaking down the factors...

Adults: 1 (Space Brothers).
Comedy: 2 (Sakurasou and Space Brothers).
Fantasy: 1 (Shin Sekai Yori).
High School Students: 3 (Kokoro Connect, Sakurasou, and Shin Sekai Yori).
Psychological: 2 (Kokoro Connect and Shin Sekai Yori).
Slice-of-Life: 3 (Kokoro Connect, Sakurasou, and Space Brothers).



Just to clarify some facts, Shin Sekai Yori didn't feature high school students. The series focuses on Saki and her friends when they are 12, 14, 26, and 36 at the very end.
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Psycho Pass
I like both very, very much and considered abstaining or just flipping a coin. I thought the main concept in each was pretty deep and well done, but with flaws--the pacing in Kokoro Connect was a little wobbly and left to end with just 13 episodes doesn't really conclude all that effectively--At some point I did manage to see the additional 4 episodes, which improved that, but it still didn't hang together quite as well as Psycho Pass. However I thought that the theme of Psycho Pass was significantly less "fresh" and that as exciting as the action was (making me want to always move right on to the next episode in the last half of the show) it was pretty heavy-handed. I know some people enjoyed the philosophical mini-lectures complete with reference to famous thinkers, but I would have preferred more subtlety. So in terms of story and execution of story these are equally good and equally flawed.

Which means that it comes down more to rating on features that are usually less important to me, and normally only come into play if they are so bad as to take away from the overall impact of a show--music and visual presentation. In neither Kokoro Connect nor Psycho Pass were these of a quality that took away from my enjoyment of the shows, but I quite liked the OP for Pyscho Pass during the first 11 episodes (did not particularly like the ED or the OP for 12-22). I found the OP and ED for Kokoro unremarkable and always fast forwarded through. So, slight edge for Psycho Pass. I love the look of Psycho Pass--character design, backgrounds, and the shade and shape of everything so dark and strong (except the Sybil System when revealed to Akane). Episode 11 was nearly perfect in nearly every way and the tunnel "landscape" looked like great art. Several scenes, such as closeups of the wheat fields near the end, were breathtaking. The look of Kokoro did nothing for me. Thus with a slight edge in music, and a complete advantage in looks. Psycho Pass gets my vote.
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