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zipzo wrote:

Angerudusto wrote:

I wouldn't mess with that stuff. I don't really have any occult/superstitious beliefs, but I do believe in Evil, and that inviting Evil is a very bad idea.

I think it's far more rational to have a fear of other human beings. There is an existing possibility (and I suppose it's even likely) that you could actually be attacked by one as opposed to "evil spirits".

Probability would show that if you compare ghost/demon/evil related deaths to that of human homicide, that you're more likely to encounter that before you do an apparition.

I didn't say that people can't be evil.
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NicoMG85 wrote:

Honestly, if you're willing to believe in those or even willing to try using one, make sure you check yourself into the nearest hospital for a full psychological exam. If you've been deemed not crazy, then the doctor who performed the exam is even crazier than you.

lol! awesome answer. yeah, it's just another Parker Brothers board game. it's as real as Monopoly Money.

here is a related link:
Glow-in-the-Dark Ouija Board by Hasbro sold at Toys R Us
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They don't work Just a game by Parker brothers.
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I've tried them several times and it never does anything. So I guess the spirits don't like me...
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kanzen19 wrote:

They don't work Just a game by Parker brothers.

Well this isn't necessarily true.

The game does work. It's just not powered by spiritual entities in the slightest.
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Hahaha. -.-
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Pen and Tell Blind folded 6 people and turned the board over and wrote gibberish on the back, even a picture of a toilet I think and it got some hits I am just skeptical of it. Sorry but how did you get it to work
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Posted 8/19/13 , edited 8/19/13

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Tarya wrote:

I played with one with my sister and some of our young cousins -- I was 16, my sister was 15, and the cousins were 11 and 10.
My best friend had just died in a car accident, so my sister and I decided we would try a Ouija board to see if we could contact her. I never knew if it was her, although she spelled out her name. The two cousins didn't know the details of my friends death (not even her name), and I totally trust my sister when she said she wasn't moving the oracle.
It didn't get scary at this point. The spirit spelled out that she had to go, and when we asked where she had to go, she said she had to use the of course we were like, "There are bathrooms in Heaven?" The reply came back, "Of course. Where else would we go?"

I have never forgotten that, because it was so funny and so weird. It was definitely not something that any of us would have come up with.

Later after the two cousins went to bed, my sister and I played with the board by ourselves. There was something malevolent that contacted us later and scared us bad enough we never messed with a Ouija board again. I know I wasn't moving the oracle, and to this day my sister swears she wasn't either.
But I should say that I believe in ghosts because I have seen them, so of course we believed in the Ouija board as a conduit to speak with the dead.

So, play with the board at your own risk -- you don't really know the spirits you are talking to, and you really may not want to know them either...

Glen, The Bible clearly states in Genesis that Adam came from the dust, and to the dust he would return, This was after he and eve rebelled against God's warning about not eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

In Genesis. 2:16, 17: And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.”

After pronouncing judgment for their act of disobedience, God said to Adam in Genesis 3:19: " 9 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken.+ For dust you are and to dust you will return.

There are other scriptures that assure us that when a person dies, that is that, nothing lives on, However, There are spirit creatures that do delight in making you think that the dead can speak or contact the living or harm the living, they are those angels that followed satan the devil and were finally cast out of heaven. A Ouija board or any sommoning of the dead is fruitless, your being tricked by demonic forces.

There are also scriptures that allude to our spirit or soul and that we may have a place in Heaven -- I believe the "dust to dust" reference to be applicable to the corporeal body and does not refer to what happens to our souls.

1 Corinthians 15:42-44
So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

John 14:1-2
Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

Anyways, I am not on this site to be preached to about whether spirits exist or do not exist, I was stating my experience with a Ouija board and that I personally believe in ghosts, demons, spirits, souls, etc and have a reason to from things that I have experienced in my own life.
But thank you for the Bible verses.

Paul did not mean that the living are to be baptized in behalf of the dead, for Jesus’ disciples must personally learn, believe, and get baptized. (Matthew 28:19, 20; Acts 2:41) Anointed Christians are “baptized for the purpose of being dead ones” by being immersed into a life course that leads to death and resurrection. This type of baptism begins when God’s spirit engenders the heavenly hope in them and ends when they are raised from death to immortal spirit life in heaven.—Romans 6:3-5; 8:16, 17; 1 Corinthians 6:14.

8 As Paul’s words indicate, the resurrection hope enables Christians to stand in jeopardy hourly and to face death daily for doing the Kingdom-preaching work. (1 Corinthians 15:30, 31) They know that Jehovah can resurrect them if he permits Satan and his servants to kill them. Only God can do away with their soul, or life, in Gehenna, symbolizing eternal destruction.—Luke 12:5.

A Need to Be Alert

9 The resurrection hope sustained Paul. While he was in Ephesus, his foes may have thrown him into the arena to fight wild beasts. (1 Corinthians 15:32) If that occurred, he was delivered, even as Daniel was rescued from the lions. (Daniel 6:16-22; Hebrews 11:32, 33) Since he hoped in the resurrection, Paul did not have the attitude of Judah’s apostates in Isaiah’s day. They said: “Let us eat and drink, for to-morrow we die.” (Isaiah 22:13, Septuagint) If the resurrection hope is to have sustaining power in our life as it did in Paul’s, we must avoid those having such an unhealthy spirit. “Do not be misled,” warned Paul. “Bad associations spoil useful habits.” (1 Corinthians 15:33) Of course, this principle applies to various aspects of life.

10 To those doubting the resurrection, Paul said: “Wake up to soberness in a righteous way and do not practice sin, for some are without knowledge of God. I am speaking to move you to shame.” (1 Corinthians 15:34) In this “time of the end,” we need to act in harmony with accurate knowledge of God and Christ. (Daniel 12:4; John 17:3) This will keep alive our resurrection hope.

Resurrected With What Body?

11 Paul next dealt with certain questions. (1 Corinthians 15:35-41) Perhaps in an effort to cast doubt on the resurrection, an inquirer might ask: “How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?” As Paul showed, a seed planted in the soil in effect dies as it changes to become a seedling. Similarly, a spirit-begotten human must die. Just as a plant rises from a seed as a new body, so the resurrected body of the anointed Christian is different from human flesh. Though he has the same life pattern that he had before dying, he is raised up as a new creature with a spirit body able to live in heaven. Naturally, those resurrected on earth will be raised in human bodies.

12 As Paul said, human flesh differs from that of animals. Even animal flesh varies from one kind to another. (Genesis 1:20-25) The “heavenly bodies” of spirit creatures differ in glory from “earthly bodies” of flesh. There are also differences in the glory of the sun, moon, and stars. But resurrected anointed ones have far greater glory.

13 Having mentioned differences, Paul added: “So also is the resurrection of the dead.” (1 Corinthians 15:42-44) He said: “It is sown in corruption, it is raised up in incorruption.” Here Paul may mean the anointed as a group. Sown in corruption at death, it is raised up in incorruption, free from sin. Though dishonored by the world, it is raised to heavenly life and made manifest with Christ in glory. (Acts 5:41; Colossians 3:4) At death it is sown “a physical body” and raised “a spiritual body.” Since this is possible in the case of spirit-begotten Christians, we can be sure that others can be raised to life on earth.

14 Paul next contrasted Christ with Adam. (1 Corinthians 15:45-49) Adam, the first man, “became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) “The last Adam”—Jesus—“became a life-giving spirit.” He gave his life as a ransom sacrifice, first in behalf of his anointed followers. (Mark 10:45) As humans, they ‘bear the image of the one made of dust,’ but when resurrected they become like the last Adam. Of course, Jesus’ sacrifice will benefit all obedient mankind, including those resurrected on the earth.—1 John 2:1, 2.

15 When anointed Christians die, they are not raised in the flesh. (1 Corinthians 15:50-53) A corruptible body of flesh and blood cannot inherit incorruption and the heavenly Kingdom. Some anointed ones would not have to experience a long sleep in death. Finishing their earthly course in faithfulness during Jesus’ presence, they would “be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye.” They would be raised instantaneously to spirit life in incorruption and glory. Eventually, Christ’s heavenly “bride” will number 144,000.—Revelation 14:1; 19:7-9; 21:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17.

Victory Over Death!

16 Paul triumphantly declared that death would be swallowed up forever. (1 Corinthians 15:54-57) When the corruptible and mortal put on incorruption and immortality, these words will be fulfilled: “Death is swallowed up forever.” “Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?” (Isaiah 25:8; Hosea 13:14) The sting producing death is sin, and sin’s strength was the Law, which condemned sinners to death. But because of Jesus’ sacrifice and resurrection, death inherited from sinful Adam will no longer be victorious.—Romans 5:12; 6:23.

17 “Consequently, my beloved brothers,” said Paul, “become steadfast, unmovable, always having plenty to do in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in connection with the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 15:58) Those words apply to today’s anointed remnant and to Jesus’ “other sheep” even if they die in these last days. (John 10:16) Their labors as Kingdom proclaimers are not in vain, for a resurrection awaits them. As Jehovah’s servants, then, let us keep busy in the Lord’s work while awaiting the day when we can joyously cry out: “Death, where is your victory?”

The Resurrection Hope Fulfilled!

18 Paul’s words recorded in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 make it evident that the resurrection hope had power in his life. He was absolutely certain that Jesus was raised from the dead and that others would also be released from mankind’s common grave. Do you have such strong conviction? Paul considered selfish advantages “a lot of refuse” and ‘took the loss of all things’ so that he might ‘know Christ and the power of his resurrection.’ The apostle was willing to submit to a death like that of Christ in the hope of receiving “the earlier resurrection.” Also called “the first resurrection,” it is experienced by Jesus’ 144,000 anointed followers. Yes, they are raised to spirit life in heaven, whereas “the rest of the dead” will be resurrected on the earth.—Philippians 3:8-11; Revelation 7:4; 20:5, 6.

19 The resurrection hope has become a glorious reality for anointed ones who have been faithful unto death. (Romans 8:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18; Revelation 2:10) Survivors of “the great tribulation” will see the resurrection hope realized on earth as ‘the sea gives up those dead in it, and death and Hades give up those dead in them.’ (Revelation 7:9, 13, 14; 20:13) Among those raised to life on earth will be Job, who suffered the loss of seven sons and three daughters. Imagine his joy in welcoming them back—and how delighted they will be that they have seven more brothers and three other beautiful sisters!—Job 1:1, 2, 18, 19; 42:12-15.

20 What a blessing it will be when Abraham and Sarah, Isaac and Rebekah—yes and so many others, including “all the prophets”—are raised to life on earth! (Luke 13:28) One of those prophets was Daniel, who was promised a resurrection under Messianic rule. For some 2,500 years, Daniel has rested in the grave, but by the power of the resurrection, he will soon ‘stand up for his lot’ as one of the “princes in all the earth.” (Daniel 12:13; Psalm 45:16) What a thrill it will be to welcome back not only faithful ones of old but also your own father, mother, son, daughter, or other dear ones taken from you by the enemy death!

21 Some of our friends and loved ones may have served God for decades and are well along in years. Advanced age may make it difficult for them to meet the challenges of life. How loving it is to give them whatever help we can right now! Then we will have no regrets about having failed them in some way if death should claim them as its victims. (Ecclesiastes 9:11; 12:1-7; 1 Timothy 5:3, 8) We can be certain that Jehovah will not forget the good things we do for others, regardless of their age or circumstances. “As long as we have time favorable for it,” wrote Paul, “let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith.”—Galatians 6:10; Hebrews 6:10.

22 Jehovah is “the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort.” (2 Corinthians 1:3, 4) His Word comforts us and helps us to comfort others with the powerful resurrection hope. Until we witness the fulfillment of that hope by the raising of the dead to life on earth, let us be like Paul, who had faith in the resurrection. May we especially imitate Jesus, whose hope in God’s power to resurrect him was realized. Those in the memorial tombs will soon hear Christ’s voice and come out. May this bring us comfort and joy. But above all, may we be thankful to Jehovah, who has made victory over death possible through our Lord Jesus Christ!

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