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Posted 7/28/16 , edited 7/28/16
World Trigger sells really well and it's rankings are all over the place. I think that will only improve when Ashihara finally starts the next arc.

Straighten Up looks like it'll be a Psyren type of series. Building a dedicated fanbase, and chugging along to its own thing. I think Samon will be the same.

Kimetsu no Yaiba, I only see getting more popular. It ranks really well, and is quite a good series.
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Well from the looks of it, the new big bosses of the NEW ERA JUMP will be Black Clover, Hinomaru Zumou and Boku no Hero Academia. If Kimetsu no Yaiba manages to reach 100 chapters, it would be good! Saiki looks like it will be the new gintama of Jump. Yuragi also looks promising, and it may be the new romance series to replace Nisekoi. But, what do you think about Sesuji wo Pin to? It has reached 60 Chapters, and the story is quite enjoyable! Its rankings are not bad either.
As of Shokugeki no Soma, it looks like it is slowly beginning to complicate things, and that it will reach Toriko's and Bleach's situation.
Is World Trigger considered a high-rated series? I stopped reading it after the Invasion Arc, and I don't really like it, but it looks like its rankings are good!


I feel like most of the new series could get really popular, they're just too unknown atm. Hinomaru Zumou has massive potential I believe, the series is just amazing. An anime has the ability to make it completely explode (plz IG, I'm begging you!). Sesuji is a cool little series and I really hope it's able to stick around long enough to get a decent fan base to keep it going. I can see Kimetsu no Yaiba getting quite popular and it's going nowhere fast. Samon is sink or swim really. It could end up like Saiki, which is showing no effects of increasing in sales from the anime and sells quite poor really. Or it could be the next Gintama, just depends on how its promoted. The later is possible because from what I've read of the later chapters it seems to have some story progression unlike Saiki, which could potentially attract more readers. Yuragi's a confirmed hit after the first volume sales.

Is it just me that feels like the entire series of World Trigger so far has been setting up for later? When I was first introduced to the series, the idea of the Neighbor world had so much potential and the series could go on for ages exploring it. It reminded me of when we found out about the Grand Line in OP. But they're still a ways before getting there. I wonder whether it will take advantage of that potential or not. What I like about the series is that the MC is so weak and just crap in general. So there's lots of strategy involved so he can make use of his few strengths. No bullshit willpower/nakama power ups there.

The current lineup is solid, and apart from the series we know will be ending, the only things I can see in any danger of being cancelled within the year are Takuan and maybe Sesuji. But this serialisation round is coming across as kind of weak so I wonder if any of them will stay?

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Posted 7/28/16 , edited 7/28/16

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AsterDogma wrote:

Well from the looks of it, the new big bosses of the NEW ERA JUMP will be Black Clover, Hinomaru Zumou and Boku no Hero Academia. If Kimetsu no Yaiba manages to reach 100 chapters, it would be good! Saiki looks like it will be the new gintama of Jump. Yuragi also looks promising, and it may be the new romance series to replace Nisekoi. But, what do you think about Sesuji wo Pin to? It has reached 60 Chapters, and the story is quite enjoyable! Its rankings are not bad either.
As of Shokugeki no Soma, it looks like it is slowly beginning to complicate things, and that it will reach Toriko's and Bleach's situation.
Is World Trigger considered a high-rated series? I stopped reading it after the Invasion Arc, and I don't really like it, but it looks like its rankings are good!


I feel like most of the new series could get really popular, they're just too unknown atm. Hinomaru Zumou has massive potential I believe, the series is just amazing. An anime has the ability to make it completely explode (plz IG, I'm begging you!). Sesuji is a cool little series and I really hope it's able to stick around long enough to get a decent fan base to keep it going. I can see Kimetsu no Yaiba getting quite popular and it's going nowhere fast. Samon is sink or swim really. It could end up like Saiki, which is showing no effects of increasing in sales from the anime and sells quite poor really.



Well, I thought that Saiki was selling at least a good number of volumes, but looks like it is doing a little bad! Such a pity, I really like its humor, and sometimes the gags are quite amusing! The anime is also very interesting, and it presents the manga events in a very good way! I would be a little sad if Saiki was cancelled, It is a nice series to lighten up your mood a little!!
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Hinomaru Zumou totally deserves an anime. It's a real shame that it hasn't gotten one.
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So in other words, One piece will be first for the most part. Exception, Front cover, and monthly.
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its basically saying that ToC is mainly chosen by the editor and not by votes (they play a part at judging popularity)

One Piece worst position in the ToC is a 4th place(ever since 1997)

this makes a lot more sense , Mononofu had great ranks them it plunged (probably editors but it in the back because it had low sales and didn't have much chance of increasing it and them they axed it)

It also explains why Hinomaru is so high but sells so poorly.
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its basically saying that ToC is mainly chosen by the editor and not by votes (they play a part at judging popularity)

One Piece worst position in the ToC is a 4th place(ever since 1997)

this makes a lot more sense , Mononofu had great ranks them it plunged (probably editors but it in the back because it had low sales and didn't have much chance of increasing it and them they axed it)

It also explains why Hinomaru is so high but sells so poorly.


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Now this makes me uneasy about Kimetsu no Yaiba since its First volume didn't sell well.

i am hoping Volume 2 has a significant increase.in sales..

Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san has reached 300k copies in print with volume 2

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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #35 (August 1st, 2016):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- My Hero Academia
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #28)
Black Clover (Center Color)
2- Haikyu!!
3- Gintama
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (Center Color)
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #28)
5- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
6- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
9- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
10- Toriko
11- Samon the Summoner
12- Nisekoi
13- Kochikame
14- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Boruto: Naruto Next Generation (Absent, Monthly Series)
??? x ??? (???)

WSJ and ESJ #35 Covers:



Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #36-37 (August 8th, 2016):
One Piece (Lead CP, 19th Anniversary)
Bleach (Center Color, 15th Anniversary)
Nisekoi (Center Color, 25 p., END)
Boruto: Naruto Next Generation (Center Color, 47 p., Monthly Series)
The Promised Neverland (Center Color, 25 p.)


WSJ and ESJ #36-37 Preview:
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Posted 8/1/16 , edited 8/2/16

Tanjiroukun wrote:

its basically saying that ToC is mainly chosen by the editor and not by votes (they play a part at judging popularity)

One Piece worst position in the ToC is a 4th place(ever since 1997)

this makes a lot more sense , Mononofu had great ranks them it plunged (probably editors but it in the back because it had low sales and didn't have much chance of increasing it and them they axed it)

It also explains why Hinomaru is so high but sells so poorly.


What is the use of rankings if editors are the ones who choose it. I always wondered why one piece chapters always high in ranking, even if that chapter is mediocre.
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So, what did everyone think about the new Jump Start?
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Well One Piece is by far the most popular series in WSJ, so it wouldn't surprise me if people were buying WSJ to read only OP and to vote only for OP, honestly enough to even tip it into continuously high ranks.

I'm not sure how much I believe it though... but it would help explain Food Wars being all over the place. I feel like it's more likely a mix of the votes and the editor-in-chief's decision. Series near the bottom will still always get axed in the end, so the order is still definitely worth following.


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So, what did everyone think about the new Jump Start?


I think the first chapter was good so far. Not really enough to really hook me into it, but I think it definitely has potential. It will take a few more chapters to have a really solid opinion.

I rated it really well in the survey since it would be nice to have a new series finally. Seems there are a lot of positive comments about it on the website.
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Now this makes me uneasy about Kimetsu no Yaiba since its First volume didn't sell well.

i am hoping Volume 2 has a significant increase.in sales.
I think it's being kept alive by good rankings and the fact that Jump thinks it can draw a good audience. It's the same reason they've kept Hinomaru around for so long.

Also, I heard the first volume sales only counted for two days or something. They didn't count the full amount, so we don't really know how popular it is right now.
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Since people are talking about the rankings and similar things, I thought I'd chime in. Here some of my observations, and how I look at the ToC:

I think that each genre is treated a little differently. The common thing is that a series will get cancelled immediately if it didn't show any signs of potentially being a good enough success.

The action genre has it the worst because that is Jump's identity. When you think about Jump, you think about action/battle manga. That's why I believe they recieve harsher treatment than other genres.

Recent big sports series didn't start that big. Kuroko and Haikyu were able to crack the 100K mark before their anime, which is the most eye opening sign for a new series, but it wasn't until after their respective anime series that their sales spiked. I'd like to believe that Hinomaru Sumo is being kept because they are hopeful that it'll get some type of big boost if it gets an anime.

Gag series generally sell around 100K. Many of these are popular, and I've noticed that some are popular in the magazine and people vote for them, but many wouldn't buy the volumes. It depends on the manga, really. There are certain gag series such as Dr. Slump, that sell way beyond a normal gag series. Some gag series had a secured place in the magazine like Isobe right now, and previously Jaguar.

One last thing I'd like to say about sales. We are in a different era now. Digital manga are now a thing, and they are becoming more prominent with time. Digital sales are not disclosed to the public, yet. You can find rankings online on the digital platform you visit, but you won't see numbers. I always keep that in mind when looking at manga sales.


As for the rankings, I've mentioned it a few times in the thread, but it's understandable if new people don't want to look at a 100+ pages. Yes, the ToC is mostly organized by the Editor in Chief. I personally just look at what's consistently at the top or bottom to get an idea about what's doing well and what's doing bad.

The "8-week rule" is just something that's made up by people online based on the period of time it usually takes a new series before its cancellation. There was a time where people used an 11-week rule. I'm using the 8-week rule because it's the popular one now, but as I've said, just looking at the top and the bottom of the ToC will give you a somewhat good idea about a manga's performance. That is of course not taking the exceptions, such as Kochikame, into consideration.

I'd like to also emphasize on otakuforlife's point. Of course you would have a certain group of people that follow one or two series, and only vote for them. A recent example I'd like to mention is that there was a noticeable decline in Jump's circulation after Naruto ended.
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