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One Piece IS NOW HERE

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I love the fact I pay for this and everyone is getting pumped up about it but I can't watch it in the UK! I'm paying the same as everyone else and seem to getting half of what I'm paying for!

good job on getting and all, but if you can't make it available for all your paying subscribers whats they point?
Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13
Okay but will you get the rest of the episodes too.
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torbonator wrote: I love the fact I pay for this and everyone is getting pumped up about it but I can't watch it in the UK! I'm paying the same as everyone else and seem to getting half of what I'm paying for!

good job on getting and all, but if you can't make it available for all your paying subscribers whats they point?

But you pay for what you watch, like everyone else ... so if you can't watch One Piece, your subscription money can't go to pay for it.

Its the flip side of Crunchyroll getting some shoujo anime and a shonen action fan saying "I can't believe my money is going to get this kind of anime". If they don't watch it, their money doesn't go to it. The royalty money that comes out of their subscription is split between the anime that they do watch.

That's the way that buffet pricing works. It also means that those who watch a lot of episodes per month pay less per episode than those who pay for only a few, but if the pay per view price were to be 50 pence an episode (and most PPV have been higher), you break even with buffet pricing at 10 episodes a month. So if there are three series that you would be willing to watch on a PPV basis at 50p an episode, you are ahead of the game with buffet pricing at 5 quid a month.

Its the three series break-even which is why I've previously suggested that Crunchyroll should let people pay one months subscription to get premium access to one season of one simulcast series, for people in places like the Middle East and most of Africa, who get only a fraction of the access that subscribers in Northern Europe and Latin America get.
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When I originally started paying I could watch what I want but slowly but surely a lot of anime I've been watching has been region locked. I'm not blaming Crunchyroll itself as it's licensing issues. But the fact I'm getting emails etc there advertisements for these animes that I can't watch but other people have access to is unfair especially paying the same price. The principle is access not what I want to watch, I might not watch one piece but I still pay for the access same as other countries.
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What the hell crunchy roll , why isn't One Piece available to stream in the UK???
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torbonator wrote: The principle is access not what I want to watch, I might not watch one piece but I still pay for the access same as other countries.

But you don't pay for any of the series that you don't have access to ~ the minimum guarantee money comes from the subscription and ad revenue from the countries that have access to the series, and any residual royalties comes from the revenues from the viewers that covered the minimum guarantee.

You might want to have access to the series so your money can go to that series, but Toei (or Toei's sub-licensor) doesn't get a chance to earn your money unless they give the UK access. They only get a chance to earn money from the Americas & the Super Rugby nation members (go the Waratahs!).

The fact that licensors have to find a way to give access outside of North America to get a piece of the revenue from members outside of North America is how Crunchyroll has succeeded in going from having half of their simulcasts North America only to having over 90% of their simulcasts with rights outside of North America.

But business deal time is not at the same pace as internet discussion time ... it seems like it took them two years to work out this deal, and it could be another two years of work to get the region access expanded.
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Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13
Man, I hate this show. I can't get away from it though. Dammit Crunchyroll. You were my safe haven.
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I'm so happy thank you crunchyroll
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logged into Crunchyroll then saw this AMAZING article & because of sheer excitement my body started doing the robot.....scrolled down a little only to realise that the whole of the EU is getting the middle finger yet again Damn licensing rights! (I'm looking at you Toei)
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Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13
Get the rest of the season as well!
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Well seeing I live in EU, is this post pretty useless for me, however I'm happy for all those who can watch it though

/Cheers
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Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13

galbadiaprjt wrote: Get the rest of the season as well!

C'mon, read the announcement:

Starting THIS Saturday, November 2, Crunchyroll will be simulcasting One Piece at 7pm Pacific Daylight Time with episode 619, for both Premium AND Free members! All previous episodes will be also be available on Crunchyroll at a later date.



psyfa59 wrote: ... Damn licensing rights! (I'm looking at you Toei)

Exactly ~ eyes turn to Toei now. Hopefully, if some of the blockage comes from the older style broadcast deals, then when they come up for renewal, Toei will shift the deal to non-exclusive streaming rights, allowing pure streaming sites to get a piece of the action.

But even if it actually is Toonami UK that holds the UK streaming rights under one of the old style broadcast licenses, and the streaming rights are opened up, its not a sure thing that Crunchyroll will get it for the UK, since the new Animax UK streaming site might outbid Crunchyroll for it, same as Anime-On-Demand was outbidding Crunchyroll for some titles last year.
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Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13
one piece is not here, crunchyroll gone bad with region locks, i guess time to delete crunchyroll account
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MangaUK claimed on twitter that if we wanted streaming rights then we should go to Toei to beg for them, which sort of implies that the rights are with Toei.

Also, all the animax back catalogue is lifted either from Anime on Demand or from Kaze with the sole exception of vampire knight, which, like most Kaze titles, is the property of Viz in the US, but is licensed in the UK by MangaUK.
Given that One Piece is Funimation in the US and MangaUK in the UK, I doubt we'll see them add it to the back catalogue.
But then, given that it took 23 years after the TV series started airing in Japan (and 17 years after Funimation got it in the US) before Toei were prepared to offer the UK rights for home release of DBZ at a doable price, I really don't think we'll be seeing One Piece being streamed here any time soon.
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Posted 11/5/13 , edited 11/5/13
Oh I missed that sentence, thanks for pointing it out.
It's all good then, I don't mind waiting a few more days/weeks.
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