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One Piece IS NOW HERE

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Since Europe got excluded, can CR tell what company or companies got the licence for One piece?
All I find is Jetix (Disney XD), who indeed got a channel atleast in my country but never over the last couple of years broadcasted a anime, let alone an anime in a language other then Dutch.

Are they allowed to buy broadcasting rights and then not broadcast the show?
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I have a question. If it's so hard for the UK to get access to One Piece (whether it be streaming, DVD or broadcast TV), how comes they keep releasing the video games over here when America has missed a few of them? I mean, we're getting Romance Dawn this month on 3DS but most of the arcs that it covers have never even touched UK shores. Just seems weird!


Edit: I think I may have answered my own question. We barely have any access to the anime, but VizMedia has been giving us the manga for years. Makes sense now.
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Sorry, didn't have the time to filter through 30+ pages. Anyone know if they will be putting up older episodes?
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Leorosado15 wrote:
Oh, UK is really good. Here in Brazil have 200 (129 with portuguese sub), TBS and Media Factory hate us and we can't read Kodansha mangas.



The thing is, it's really quite subjective.

Going by sheer numbers, we do pretty well here in the UK. The problem is that a lot of the excluded ones are shows that people actaully want to watch.

The "not in the UK list" contains a fair few shows that i know are my type. Either because I've read the mange, bought the DVD(older-only)/Blu-ray(recent) or.... sought out elsewhere owing to lack of UK streaming or Blu-ray.
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twenty4hundred wrote:

Sorry, didn't have the time to filter through 30+ pages. Anyone know if they will be putting up older episodes?


Yes in the future they will also post older episodes.
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twenty4hundred wrote:

Sorry, didn't have the time to filter through 30+ pages. Anyone know if they will be putting up older episodes?

No need to filter through 30+ pages; the information was in the very first post:


Starting THIS Saturday, November 2, Crunchyroll will be simulcasting One Piece at 7pm Pacific Daylight Time with episode 619, for both Premium AND Free members! All previous episodes will be also be available on Crunchyroll at a later date.
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I am so happy that they got that anime now !
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Are they gonna add all the seasons released or just start from Ep 619?
Not really worth it..
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BlackHorde22 wrote:

Are they gonna add all the seasons released or just start from Ep 619?
Not really worth it..


Never fear! From the first post:

All previous episodes will be also be available on Crunchyroll at a later date.
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Mog86 wrote:
According to the full alphabetical list on the 'Shows' page, the US have 101 more anime shows than the UK.
The US have 364 anime shows; the UK have 263.

Oh, UK is really good. Here in Brazil have 200 (129 with portuguese sub), TBS and Media Factory hate us and we can't read Kodansha mangas.



In Spain (Europe) we get 126. Pretty sad.
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That's Great News!
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redsd wrote: Since Europe got excluded, can CR tell what company or companies got the licence for One piece?

My own guess would be probably not. If Crunchyroll gets a rep as being a blabbermouth, they risk losing access to licenses. Its also quite possible that Crunchyroll does not know: Toei could in fact have simply said, "we are very sorry, but regretfully those rights are not presently available", "we are very sorry, but regretfully we cannot specify when those rights may become available for negotiation," and did not share the details with Crunchyoll, either directly or through Funimation as an intermediary.


All I find is Jetix (Disney XD), who indeed got a channel at least in my country but never over the last couple of years broadcasted a anime, let alone an anime in a language other then Dutch.

Are they allowed to buy broadcasting rights and then not broadcast the show?

It depends on what the contract says. For example, a home video distribution license often has a deadline for a release to occur, or the license expires.

For broadcast licenses, sometimes a company will pick up the exclusive right to market a show to a group of countries, and only reach a deal with broadcasters or cable channels in some of those countries. If there is a performance target, it might not be country by country target. In that case, a broadcast in one country might be enough to hold onto the rights, even though the other countries are not getting the series.

That would be very attractive to some Japanese licensors for European rights, because it takes a lot of complexity out of their hands, and leaves it for the European license owner to sort out.

I'd underline this is just from basic MBA International Business, not from inside knowledge of the One Piece licenses. As far as I know, for the details of the One Piece licenses, those who know are not saying, and those who are saying do not know.


TiggsPanther wrote: The thing is, it's really quite subjective.

Going by sheer numbers, we do pretty well here in the UK. The problem is that a lot of the excluded ones are shows that people actually want to watch.

That's not surprising, because ...

(1) There are simulcasts and former simulcasts that did not get to the UK because they were licensed by a North American home video distributor who did not bother getting the UK rights ... they were licensed because the home video distributor thought they would be popular to a Western audience.

(2) There are simulcasts and formers simulcasts that were licensed for streaming to the UK, and the rights were picked up by a competing streaming site (Anime-On-Demand, Wakanim, AnimaxUK), which was picked up because they thought it would be popular in the UK.

(3) There are catalog titles that were put up by North American licensors, primarily to promote the sales of their discs, often in package deals & with the North American licensor providing their already-commissioned subtitles ... they were originally licensed because somebody thought they would be popular, so on average they tend to be among the more popular of older shows.

(1) and (3) applies to most regions.

For many regions (1) is the biggest problem for simulcasts, because the most common broader license region is US/Canada, UK/Erie, Oz/NZ & South Africa, the seven so-called "English Language Countries". For the same reason, (1) is less common for the UK.

However, (2) is something that is not common in other regions, other than France. In several simulcast seasons, a majority of series that have been blocked to the UK on Crunchyroll have been available on other sites.


SlimeStack wrote: I have a question. If it's so hard for the UK to get access to One Piece (whether it be streaming, DVD or broadcast TV), how comes they keep releasing the video games over here when America has missed a few of them?


As far as the actual licensing restriction, there are two types of people (1) those who know and (2) those who talk.

So those of us talking can only guess, because none of us actually know precisely what is going on.

Two possibilities: (1) there is a "hangover" broadcast license from earlier in the previous decade that included streaming in the bundle of rights (that is Toonami UK, which switched to less anime-focused programming in 2006); and (2) there is someone else negotiating for the rights.

(1) would go away when Toei or their sublicensor renegotiates the license with Toonami UK, and shift to non-exclusive streaming rights.

(2a) might go away when the license is granted, if the new licensee either signs a non-exclusive license or agrees to sublicense to Crunchyroll

(2b) would not go away if the license is granted, the licensee gets an exclusive license, and does not sub-license to Crunchyroll.

And of course, both (1) and (2) could both be true ... there could be a "hangover" from the days when exclusive streaming rights were often bundled with exclusive broadcast rights, and also somebody negotiating to stream it when those hangover license terms expire.

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no uk/european region

whats to do to have it for uk/europe licens?
love the show
if there is any way to get it for that region
whats best to support 1 month or a year, less total a year but a rapid cash and montly is little by littel
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I signed in and am shortly going to be resuming subsription because of this. One piece is that important. Well done :D
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Oh snap, I also hope it will be available for others in varied regions.
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