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George Zimmerman
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Posted 2/17/14 , edited 2/18/14

actually, self defense laws aren't that simple. If he were in another state it wouldn't matter because most other states only allow self defense with equal force (if somebody punches you, you can punch back, but not shoot, because guns are a more powerful force). Florida is one of the few states that does not have this law, which means if he truly was in danger of being killed, he would be totally innocent. the problem i have with this case is that the doctor that conducted the medical examination of zimmerman after the incident said his injuries were very minor, and that he hadn't been hurt significantly whatsoever.

I have never in my life heard of anywhere that requires you to defend yourself with 'equal force'. Laws do very state by state but in general if a person reasonably believes that there is an immediate threat of physical harm, and if said person is NOT the instigator of an altercation, then use of force is justified. Extent of injuries is irrelevant. In Illinois you are allowed to defend yourself from a criminal who has committed a forcible felony which is defined as:

Sec. 2-8. "Forcible felony". "Forcible felony" means treason, first degree murder, second degree murder, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, robbery, burglary, residential burglary, aggravated arson, arson, aggravated kidnaping, kidnaping, aggravated battery resulting in great bodily harm or permanent disability or disfigurement and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.

We also have a castle doctrine and no duty to retreat in when in our homes so If I do shoot some rapist or burglar I can't be sued by the scumbags family.

zimmerman did follow trayvon for a while before the shooting, even he admitted that. trayvon was about my age when he was killed, and to be honest, if a creepy guy was following me and i was cornered, i would throw a punch if he was was threatening me. even if trayvon did throw the first punch, you can't honestly believe that zimmerman didn't instigate the fight by stalking him.

Except Trayvon wasn't trapped in some corner of an alley with no way out.

He was a few houses away from where he was staying and George never ventured too far from where he parked his car.

if you think somebody is suspicious, you don't follow him and take matters into your own hands. you call the cops and let THEM do their job. if zimmerman had alerted the police, this whole situation could have been avoided. nobody would have been killed. trayvon didn't even do anything specific to make zimmerman think he was a criminal. he wasn't even dressed trashy, he was wearing tan pants and a sweatshirt.

Yes but what George did was ill advised, not illegal. He felt like someone was acting suspicious and wanted to keep an eye on him until police arrived. You can't pin the whole fault on Zimmerman. He was doing what he thought was right to help protect his community. Trayvon could have literally walked the however many feet to his front door and gone to bed. Instead he decided it was a good idea to pick a fight.

tell me, if you saw a big black guy who looked like a criminal, would your instinct be to follow him? no, if you honestly thought some random stranger on the street was dangerous, you wouldn't follow him around, you would stay away, and call the cops. obviously something isn't sitting straight with zimmerman, because nobody would follow a criminal.

It's not illegal to be a dumbass nor does being a dumbass have any bearing on how a law should affect you.

not only that, but zimmerman was known to be paranoid, and had made over 50 911 calls that year about suspicious behavior, all of which turned out to be nothing. when you take into account his paranoia, and his apparent need to stalk people who he thinks are criminals, you can deduce that something isn't right with him.

And Trayvon was a sweet angel who didn't do anything wrong expect wanting some Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles. We'll over look the fact that he was a pothead gangster wanna tough guy who had just been suspended from school.

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Posted 2/24/14 , edited 2/24/14

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

longfenglim wrote:

Because the worse of us are always the most fascinating.

Don't believe me... why do you think there is more books on Adolph Hitler or Stalin than there is on Mother Teresa or John Brown?

Mother Teresa is a bad example. (she was quite the evil person her self.)

She abused her helpers usually beat them with he cane. She only pretend to care for the poor, in order to build a reputation. ( She believe that people that did not worship her god are better of being slaves and admitted to that in a interview. ) Is was a fraud, and the people around her that got beat by her did the work and was the real saints/hero's.

As much as I love fanciful re-imaginings and revisionist interpretation of people's lives, I highly doubt that she is the monstrous uber-bitch that you make her out to be.
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Posted 3/10/14 , edited 3/10/14
Oh Florida, you never disappoint....George Zimmerman Signs Autographs At A Florida Gun Show.

Take me off this planet, I don't wanna live here anymore.
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"Year-end cleanup. Closing threads with no activity since 2014."
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