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2013 ★ BATTLE

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Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/11/14
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GoldTStar wrote:

Not a vote.
Is Watamote going to be like another School Days where lots of people hate it because it's "too painful" or "bad cuz it made me sad" kind of thing?? Jesus Christ! Shoutout to irrational sensitivity though.


Hey yo, School Days was glorious, bad end though D: HAHAHA....But wait is that why people hate Watamoe? in god's name how was anything in that show painful...and too feel that sad over it, is either they can relate to it just a bit too much, or so far detached from it they view the experience a lot more awful that it is. The only hate I can agree with is the constant repetition in comedy, the pain is honestly very tame.
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DarthLuna wrote:

Hmm...how are the scores for this round gonna be tallied? Simple average score? Isn't it flawed that one doesn't need to score all of them, then? What if one show only gets rated by one person and it gets a ten, then that shows average score will be super high as opposed to another show that gets a ton of varied scores. Are there gonna be weighted scores for this round? I assume that people not voting on a show must be taken into account, since you said we're not allowed to give lower than a "6" score.


shhh

you do not want be branded a traitor and enemy of the realm. lol.
Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/11/14
I guess, since I'm essentially sabotaging the shows I want to continue most by bringing it up, but I want some clarity on this issue.
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DarthLuna wrote:

Hmm...how are the scores for this round gonna be tallied? Simple average score? Isn't it flawed that one doesn't need to score all of them, then? What if one show only gets rated by one person and it gets a ten, then that shows average score will be super high as opposed to another show that gets a ton of varied scores. Are there gonna be weighted scores for this round? I assume that people not voting on a show must be taken into account, since you said we're not allowed to give lower than a "6" score.


Theres really no other way to do it...you could say "only people who have seen all of these series can vote" but then you would get only a few votes or you could say "vote for all of the series" but then you would have people voting for series they have never watched. This was is the lesser of three evils the way I see it...The idea is that there is such a large volume of voters that it doesn't matter as much if one show has less viewers than another...
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kuuderes_shadow wrote:

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The only difference is whether you, personally, can or not bear the amount of uncomfortableness the show lashes at you. For example I dropped "Welcome to the NHK" a few years ago for exactly this reason. But that doesn't mean the show is bad, just it's not a show that works for you. I would never say "Welcome to the NHK" is a bad show, I am aware it was actually good and well done, it's just that I personally couldn't stand it emotionally. It's an issue that's very different from quality..


I never commented on 'quality' in the first place. Nor would I, as I don't believe that any measure of 'quality' that anyone comes up with, other than that of their own personal experience, has any substance behind it whatsoever. Nor did I ever actually say it was bad.


Well, "quality" is a fuzzy thing but it isn't ENTIRELY subjective - who in his right mind would ever say that Mars of Destruction is better than Puella Magi Madoka Magica? And well, you said that it deserved even less than 6/10 in your opinion, hence I thought you meant that it was bad.
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9/10 - Log Horizon = i loved it exmmo player
8/10 - silver spoon
7/10 = Kill la Kill
7/10 = gargantia
6/10 = golden time
5/10 = PC/HN/SwoG
Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/11/14
I suppose, I wonder how the decision on which ones will pass will be reached, then.
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Things have to be near-masterpieces to get a 10 when I rate, and none of these are that good. (Just mentioning that because some folks seem to be scaling up their votes to reflect ranking within the options given rather than general assessment, and I've chosen not to do that....
Well, now that I'm done, and managed to come up with two 9's, I'm not so sure about that...)

Gargantia - 6
While I liked the story, and the characters, and the way it looked a lot, the pacing was pretty unsatisfying so the story didn't unfold to best effect. I think this would have been better over more episodes but that given the number of episodes, the creators could have made better choices to present something more satisfying in that number of episodes. Also, even within some episodes the pacing was off and took away from the overall story. So..good idea with some good elements, but executed somewhat sloppily.

Golden Time - 7 8
This show nearly lost me because of the Koko ick-factor that persisted for a number of episodes. I think it would have been better if there was a bit more nuance to her character earlier on. I also didn't like how rushed the ending was. However, unlike many, I did like the way they handled the resolution with Linda. What I liked a lot though was how messy the relationships got because of people being flawed humans, and even more than that the overriding thought-provoking theme of who we are in terms of who we were and who we will be and sometimes the difficulty of melding the two of them in our very present, which is life. Aw heck. I originally gave this a 7, but I do like that theme so much, I'm bumping it to 8.

Watamote - 9/10
I feel this fully did what it set out to do character and story-wise, and accurately caught the blend of aspiration, discomfort, frustration, and misperception that was the experience of the main character. It was also forthright in dealing with teen sexuality in a way that most teen comedy anime does not--even using the standard anime tropes as a contrasting backdrop for that, and for the other experiences related to relationships of various sorts, and school-life, and life. In addition it showed the humor in the situations in a way that to me did not seem harsh or insensitive (though I know there are those who disagree with that assessment). Add in an OP that generally set a tumultuous emotional tone that fit the show very, very well (and the way in which it was used to brilliant effect in one episode), and this really is near the top for me both in experiencing it and thinking about it critically.

Sunday w/o God - 6
If the whole show was the first arc, this would have been at least an 8. But each arch grew increasingly less interesting, and it just didn't hang together well enough as a whole for it not to lose points for how dissatisfying the show became over time.

Silver Spoon - Is this an 8 or is this a 9?
I'm leaning toward 9, because I think it's at least equal to Watamote in doing well what it sets out to do, and in keeping me interested from the first with never a thought of dropping it. It was well crafted in offering a little bit of a lot of things in a way that created a believable unified whole. If I were to rate Watamote higher, it would probably be because I feel like it was harder to get what it was trying to do right. But then I think about the character development in Silver Spoon, which I can see in the struggle and thoughtful resolution that brings us from unnamed runt to Pork Bowl to bacon...and yeah, I'm giving it a 9.

Kill la Kill - 8
I really did like this a lot and appreciated what it did artistically, and in rolling everything up together in one hell of a ride. But I'm going to admit, that for all I championed for it when voting in Battle 10, it lacks the ability to fully engage me and that is keeping it from getting top rating in this round.
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someone do anova and see if the round actually worked.
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30 / F / Middle of nowhere...
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Log Horizon 9

Great premise and strategy, but I wish there was more of a back story and not just world building, but this is just me being picky I guess

Sunday Without God 9

Wow... the world almost seemed real through the different arcs and contrary to other people's opinions, I loved almost all of the arcs, especially the last one. It's amazing to think what would happen if our deepest wishes were all granted and then think about the consequences we have to live with

Problem Children From Another World (can't remember the exact name, sorry) 7

At first the excite was well built and had me hooked, but then the story fell through and the plot relied on some cliched devices. Not bad though overall.
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Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/11/14

sundin13 wrote:

Not a Vote


DarthLuna wrote:

Hmm...how are the scores for this round gonna be tallied? Simple average score? Isn't it flawed that one doesn't need to score all of them, then? What if one show only gets rated by one person and it gets a ten, then that shows average score will be super high as opposed to another show that gets a ton of varied scores. Are there gonna be weighted scores for this round? I assume that people not voting on a show must be taken into account, since you said we're not allowed to give lower than a "6" score.


Theres really no other way to do it...you could say "only people who have seen all of these series can vote" but then you would get only a few votes or you could say "vote for all of the series" but then you would have people voting for series they have never watched. This was is the lesser of three evils the way I see it...The idea is that there is such a large volume of voters that it doesn't matter as much if one show has less viewers than another...


Ya dude, you speak the truth here. And every show has had at least 20 people voting for it so everything should be pretty fair.
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Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/11/14
Silver Spoon - 10
+ Great Character Development
+ Agriculture 101

Log Horizon - 9
+ Lots of Characterisation and World Building
+ Homage to MMO
+ Database
- Slow Opening Arc

Problem Children - 8.5
+ Great Atmosphere
+ Badass Protagonist
+ Great Fights
+ That Ending Song
- Too Short
- Too many unanswered questions

Gargantia - 8
+ Massive World
+ That Twist
+ Animation quality is top notch
- Anti-climatic - Lots left unexplored after such a great build-up

Kill la Kill - 7
+ Great Second Half with a strong finish
+ Awesome Soundtrack
- Poor first half that dragged on for too long
- Animation looks horrendous at times

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DarthLuna wrote:

I suppose, I wonder how the decision on which ones will pass will be reached, then.


As stated in my post, the 3 shows with the highest average will advance. Simple as that.
One could have 5 or more less votes than the other and still snatch that #1.

Remember, this is just a second chance given to these shows.
If they want that #12, #13 and #14 spot in the Grand Battles, they better work.
Definitely not doing a 9-way battle between these. Have you forgotten the "I haven't seen this one so this gets the 1 point."

Edit.
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After this battle, we'll have a 1-day break.
* to calculate the averages
* to do some cutesy editing stuff
* to design this tourney's last bracket
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chrome_mist wrote:


DarthLuna wrote:

I suppose, I wonder how the decision on which ones will pass will be reached, then.


As stated in my post, the 3 shows with the highest average will advance. Simple as that.
One could have 5 or more less votes than the other and still snatch that #1.

Remember, this is just a second chance given to these shows.
If they want that #12, #13 and #14 spot in the Grand Battles, they better work.
Definitely not doing a 9-way battle between these. Have you forgotten the "I haven't seen this one so this gets the 1 point."

Edit.
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After this battle, we'll have a 1-day break.
* to calculate the averages
* to do some cutesy editing stuff
* to design this tourney's last bracket


Well like I said earlier, and I suspect this is part of Luna's point too, the 'low vote count/high average' show is gonna get MURDERED when it moves forward.

It's basically saying "Viewer count is TOTALLY IMPORTANT except in this one case where it totally isn't!"

I Have to keep reminding myself that this isn't really a serious competition, but I do systems like this for a living (partially), so it also makes me kind of crazy ><

Edit: Although its cool that it's at least helping a show I like
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Wow... Okay umm,

10 - Kill la Kill Obviously, since I really loved this anime, this gets good dibs on 10. It was hilarious, and I found the characters really fun (Yes MAKO!).

9 - Silver Spoon I really liked this one. It's sad it didn't move on, but its the reason why I'm making it a 9 now.

8 - Log Horizon I'm not going to say it was the best thing I ever watched, but it did keep me interested at times. More interested than the rest.

7 - Golden Time This anime somewhat pissed me off a lot. There was a lot of emotions being thrown around for me. But I really liked how it didn't start off in a high school setting, and the ending wasn't bad.

6 - Haganai NEXT Okay, there was ecchi. I know that wasn't my kind of anime. But idk why I watched it, and you know what? Wasn't bad. I actually finished it.
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