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2013 ★ BATTLE

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Posted 5/11/14 , edited 5/12/14

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I gave every show the same rating that I did on MAL.

I did the same for this ROTF battle. All my scores are taken straight from my MAL ratings, so shows I gave 10 or 6 are the same scores I gave them when I rated them after finishing watching them.

For those curious, my MAL:
http://myanimelist.net/profile/sonic7


Glad I'm not the only one. Also, I sent you a friend request on MAL
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14
I disagree with having to rereason things from before, if i gave it a 5 thats because i havent watched it at all, thus i have to give it a moderate
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

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sonic720 wrote:

Here's a list of the ROTF votes by user in spoilers to compare with your count Chrome:


People give 10s way too easily. To think people said my MAL has high scores lol. Only 10s I have are for Code Geass, Steins; Gate, and probably Death Note if I ever watch it. Unbelievable that some people gave 2+ 10s on shows from 1 year alone.


I said it in my vote, I DID stretch my votes compared to the MAL ones (for example on MAL I gave Kill la Kill a 9, not a 10). Since the voting was only between these few shows, to me it made sense to measure them between each other. Otherwise they would all have been between a 7 and a 9. When votes are too close it's easy to tip them with little effort. It's better to make clear what we prefer over what.

Also I'm a bit staggered at the fact that LH got so many votes. I don't hate LH, I think it's pretty decent, I just don't see it as good as many other shows in the list here. It's just so... bland. Animation isn't especially good, characters aren't especially good, voice acting and music aren't especially... you get it. The only really good thing it has going for it is it being a very accurate description of what MMORPGs are like, which is surely a plus for many players who can identify in this after the relative disappointment of SAO. But as an anime it's not nearly as good as many others featured in this battle.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

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You can slowly, slowly weed out the competition and suck the life out of it.

But the harem anime will win in the end. It is just that simple.


There were no harem series in last year's final 8 and I doubt KamiNomi will be in this year's either.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

kuuderes_shadow wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

You can slowly, slowly weed out the competition and suck the life out of it.

But the harem anime will win in the end. It is just that simple.


There were no harem series in last year's final 8 and I doubt KamiNomi will be in this year's either.


I don't think he's talking about KamiNomi though. KamiNomi is also rather unusual, being more a sort of harem self-aware parody/deconstruction than a straight harem. Maybe he means Monogatari?
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

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kuuderes_shadow wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

You can slowly, slowly weed out the competition and suck the life out of it.

But the harem anime will win in the end. It is just that simple.


There were no harem series in last year's final 8 and I doubt KamiNomi will be in this year's either.


I don't think he's talking about KamiNomi though. KamiNomi is also rather unusual, being more a sort of harem self-aware parody/deconstruction than a straight harem. Maybe he means Monogatari?


I suppose, but if Monogatari can't beat one of the two remaining series that a lot of people haven't even seen, even with the vote of someone who looks suspiciously like an alt account - and it came third in its previous match, albeit against a couple of rather popular series...

... I really can't see that going very far either.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

kuuderes_shadow wrote:

I suppose, but if Monogatari can't beat one of the two remaining series that a lot of people haven't even seen, even with the vote of someone who looks suspiciously like an alt account - and it came third in its previous match, albeit against a couple of rather popular series...

... I really can't see that going very far either.


Figures. But Monogatari DOES have a lot of fans, this is for sure. It's maybe the third series in the competition that's going to inspire unwavering loyalty like Attack on Titan and Kill la Kill (and like those two, the third one able to inspire the most pure of hate). So I do see it as having potential for victory... though in the end I think Attack on Titan has proven to really be ready to steamroll everyone else when it defeated Kill la Kill so egregiously. The only true contestant there would be Kyousogiga, but that probably didn't have enough watchers to hold its own against the might of the Titans.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

phong128992 wrote: People give 10s way too easily.
The scores I gave here are only for ranking purposes among the choices present, so my votes reflected the scale of that as a means to choose which ones I wanted to return to the fight, not so much how I felt about these few shows compared to "all" anime I have ever watched. I don't really rate anything a "number" value per se for real. In the suggestions/feedback help forum I gave my views in a thread about ratings so I'm not going to repeat all of that here.

But since the opportunity existed to mathematically downvote something by giving it a 6, then that's what happened here, along with all the animosity that entails. To protect against that, in this battle, you not only had to vote for the shows you wanted, you had to also degrade the shows you didn't want, because others would be doing the same thing. If you tried to "play fair" then your seemingly positive votes of 8 were just going to get overwhelmed and not count as much as someone who voted a 10 (or a 6). Playing "fair" means your vote didn't count as much as someone who didn't have the same philosophy as you...

AK's suggestion of instead picking just the three you want to continue has a lot of merit in my opinion, and it seems to be a fair alternate way to have done this instead (maybe next year?), because that is more similar to the "like" system, where there isn't a "dislike" button to provoke hard feelings.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

phong128992 wrote:

People give 10s way too easily. To think people said my MAL has high scores lol. Only 10s I have are for Code Geass, Steins; Gate, and probably Death Note if I ever watch it. Unbelievable that some people gave 2+ 10s on shows from 1 year alone.


Someone hasn't taken Statistics yet have they.
Just adding to your "Quoted" spam notification :D....as to your statement, some sows were higher than a 6 and some below 10, for example I gave LH a 10, my true rating for it is a 7.5 -> 8...while I gave Watamoe a 7 or was it a 6, but my true rating for that is a 8 (repetitive comedy but had it''s heart in the right place).....Now I know you know how averages work....so ergo TANK the shows you want gone with a 6, and promote the shows you want in with a 10......=P /scolded
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

AnimeKami wrote:

You can slowly, slowly weed out the competition and suck the life out of it.

But the harem anime will win in the end. It is just that simple.


I didn't know Attack on Titan was a harem.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

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I didn't know Attack on Titan was a harem.

Worthless main character? Check. Lots of naked men? Check. Childhood friend? Check. Rival in love? Check.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

kuuderes_shadow wrote:
There were no harem series in last year's final 8 and I doubt KamiNomi will be in this year's either.


kdroberts wrote:
I didn't know Attack on Titan was a harem.


All anime are harems, it is just a matter of perspective. Following said perspective, is the anime a good or bad harem? That is the next logical question.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

bathroom64 wrote:

kdroberts wrote:
I didn't know Attack on Titan was a harem.
Worthless main character? Check. Lots of naked men? Check. Childhood friend? Check. Rival in love? Check.
Tsun/yandere blonde? check...
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

phong128992 wrote:


sonic720 wrote:

Here's a list of the ROTF votes by user in spoilers to compare with your count Chrome:


People give 10s way too easily. To think people said my MAL has high scores lol. Only 10s I have are for Code Geass, Steins; Gate, and probably Death Note if I ever watch it. Unbelievable that some people gave 2+ 10s on shows from 1 year alone.


Well, my ratings here are different from my MAL scores, and I did say that in this case I looked at stuff from a subjective-oriented viewpoint for this rather than an objective-oriented one like I usually do for MAL. I wanted there to be some clear separation, so sticking to MAL scores doesn't allow for that to happen since everything is either an 8 or a 9. I usually only give 1-3 10s per year, and last year only Attack on Titan got the highest rating.
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Posted 5/12/14 , edited 5/12/14

bathroom64 wrote:


kdroberts wrote:
I didn't know Attack on Titan was a harem.

Worthless main character? Check. Lots of naked men? Check. Childhood friend? Check. Rival in love? Check.


So did we have a scene of Eren falling on the female Titan and accidentally touching her boobs? I can't recall right now, but that would be the final proof that we need.
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