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2013 ★ BATTLE

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4. Problem Children - A fairly generic setup, but all the episodes were fun to watch. Attack on Titan might be 'better' for a single watch, but I would enjoy rewatching an episode of this more than Titan, so this one takes the top spot. (Plus I'm assuming Titan's a shoo-in anyways)

3. Attack on Titan - Dramatic plot, unique animation, lots of hype. Most people already know why this is good.

2. Beyond the Boundary - I think this show had more potential than it managed to realize. There were some pacing problems, and the story seemed to make leaps at times. The animation was good, and I was excited just from the premise (and what little of the source material was fan-translated beforehand).

1. Gatchman Growds - I didn't make it past the first or second episode. It was just a little too strange for my tastes.
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4 Attack on Titan - a great series with mystery and suspense mixed in with the action. Is it any surprise it's going to win?
3 Gatchaman Crowds - It looks nice enough but I have not seen it. Looks better than the others though.
2 Problem Children - Haven't seen it, but doesn't appear to be remarkable.
1 Kyoukai no Kanata - Haven't seen much of it, but have never had high hopes for KyoAni works anyway. They tend to be boring.
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4- problem children
this show made me laugh and also didn't have the main character just gain immense power for the battle then lose it just so he/she will win. mainly for comedy though there IS an overarcing plot but mainly revolves around the three bored mains who get pulled into a world that was, for lack of a better term, made for them and they get to have fun with life for the first time.
3- Beyond the boundary
interesting show. I was more focused on trying to figure out what EXACTLY the MC was and what the oldest sister was up to the whole time.
2- Gachaman crowds
confession time. Ive only seen part of one episode before I turned it off and I just didn't like it but I figured id put it here for all those fans of this show in perhaps hopes that it will move on (but not at the cost of problem children)
1- Attack on titan
im going to ASSUME that this will move on since my practically anime hating roommate loved this show and the amount of fans on crunchy. I personally did not like the art style as much, to me it seemed like they half assed some of the faces even though I know it was supposed to augment the mood and tone of the entire series all it did for me was distract me from what was going on. the main character was a bitch. if you argue against that then watch the last few episodes and explain to me why he wont fight even though there are an enormous amount of other people dying because of him. the manga couldn't keep my interest and neither could the show even though the premise and overarcing storyline (yes I looked it up) is incredible, it just failed to keep my attention.
Posted 4/18/14 , edited 4/18/14

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4. Attack on Titan - For me to not give this the top spot would be an injustice, those bashing or demoting it towards the 2/3 rank haven't expressed why it has been flawed enough to be demoted, the flaw is there but seems no one wants to say it due to their taste overriding their judgement but oh well. Now the show was phenomenal and by far the biggest storm in over taking 2013 even finding a way to break away from the massive pacing fail at the middle, which has surprised me like no other...the Story was just that good I became so complacent just to find the manga and start powering through it and not wait for the next episode.


Keep in mind that this is still the early stages. Some of us have a lot to say about many of the shows, but a careful analysis of 4 shows at a time gets extremely tedious. When we get to the later stages we, as a community, will at some point be asked to choose at least two shows that we love like crazy, and scrutinize our criteria for choosing as such. Since we love the shows already, they probably did most of the "big things" right, which means in later rounds, most of us will be criticizing shows for relatively minor details, because that's all that's left. I can almost guarantee you will find the criticisms you're looking for with Attack on Titan. Deep analysis on every show would take a ridiculous amount of time, and leave later rounds less interesting. You'll get your reasons. So while I won't answer your question completely, I can give you the short version.
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Attack on Titan is a work of sheer and utter competence. The soundtrack, writing, directing, production values, almost everything that could be done with the show was done right. Not only was it done right, but it probably qualifies as exemplary in almost all of the categories. I utterly enjoyed almost every moment of it, was near-constantly in a state of excitement, and was emotionally engaged at the most important moments in the series. And when I was done with it, I thought, "what, of lasting importance, has this show given me?" Surely, it must be admitted that, at moments of intesity, excitement, and emotion, we can come to understand human nature a bit better than before. We have one look at how human beings respond in a given situation, and this can be added as an "experience" of sorts, which certainly makes me better off than if I had not watched it.

However, the same could be said of nearly every show, work of fiction, and even every person you encounter can add to your understanding of human nature. So the question becomes, then, did Attack on Titan give me any new or otherwise interesting insight on how to look at humanity? Not to me. If someone were to call Attack on Titan "Godlike-epic," for instance, I can totally understand their feelings, and possibly even agree with them. However, I've seen many other "Godlike epic" shows as well. And when you see "Godlike epic" show after "Godlike epic" show, then "Godlike epic" starts to become less of an important feature in a show. And this is exactly the criticism, if you'd call it that, that I have against Attack on Titan. While it is undoubtedly invigorating, it simply does not improve my well-being any more than the average show. And if watching another show makes me better off than watching this show, how can I justify rating it higher?
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Gatchaman Crowds, to contrast, has average (maybe even poor) writing, an antagonist I can only be annoyed at, weak character development for the majority of the cast, and little in the way of well-crafted storytelling. In addition to many parts of the show that were genuinely fun and worthwhile, I was annoyed, frustrated, bored, and at multiple points liable to stop watching in the middle of the episode. And when I was done with it, I thought, "what, of lasting importance, has this show given me?" In addition to the normal review of human behavior that I can get from most shows, I was given a notable look at the practicality of social media, an analysis of heroism (not a completely new analysis, but a rare one), and most importantly (to me at least), a look at eccentricity that reduces it to normalcy.

While I'm not entirely opposed to it, anime has a tendency to bring attention to and exaggerate eccentric character traits. In a way, it's like "look at how weird this person is." Whether it's glowing nipples, a character remarking on how strange a given trait is, or really any of the exaggeration that anime fans are familiar with, shows typically want to make you understand just how weird their character is. Crowds, on the other hand, almost seems to put in weird characters for no reason. They're a bit strange, yeah, but they're more or less just regular people. Yeah, Rui's a cross-dresser. Yet, it's more or less not really a center of focus. He's strange, but there are much more important things to look at than how strange he is. While it's not as though this is new or completely novel, it's rare enough to be surprising, or even refreshing to behold.
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TL;DR I'll put it one more way. More or less I consider that every work of fiction starts with an idea or set of ideas. Good writing gives you a clear notion and understanding of that idea, and vice versa for bad. Attack on Titan did all they could with the central idea of the show, and I'm not sure it could have been much better. Gatchaman Crowds wasn't well-written. It just had a better idea. That's it.
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This will be a fun one.

4 - Problem Children - Ten episodes of action and comedy at an amazing balance.
3 - Kyoukai no Kanata - This not advancing would be unpleasant. Stellar animation and memorable characters.
2 - Gatchaman Crowds - An interesting story. I'm not too fond of the visuals though. They looked a little funky for me.
1 - Attack on Titan - Overrated, no character development (Mikasa is okay for not developing), Eren is just a brat that shouts all the time about killing Titans, and most importantly, WAY too much blood.

I see Attack on Titan getting a lot of 1's and 4's. I wonder how this is going to play out. Chalk one up for Attack on Titan getting a 1.
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TL;DR I'll put it one more way. More or less I consider that every work of fiction starts with an idea or set of ideas. Good writing gives you a clear notion and understanding of that idea, and vice versa for bad. Attack on Titan did all they could with the central idea of the show, and I'm not sure it could have been much better. Gatchaman Crowds wasn't well-written. It just had a better idea. That's it.


I somewhat want to Hug you right now, If anyone could have read my mind any more perfectly, in terms analysis in their flaws, it would be this, so thank you! AoT, its nothing new and actually somewhat dull but its execution is astounding to the point it makes you want more even though you know it's bad for you.
As for GC, I guess to most such as yourself it comes of as being "rare" but just not to me due to the works I have read and was reading during its airing, although they are not animated, so its poor execution just couldn't let me put it on a pedestal no matter how revitalizing its idea was. The best way I can put this, Ideas are art in themselves, We could have the epitome of this art laid upon us, but without proper delivery within its medium it might as well be meaningless scribbles.

Also thanks for the reply, new to the battles, didn't know the analysis would get deeper later on, so I'll have to wait still then.
Btw - Kyousougiga avatar, +1 for you, now that was avant-garde in style and execution.
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For me, liking an action anime comes down to whether or not I like the characters. Are they good/evil, and what is their background for turning out that way, and can they express their emotions/make others care about them because of that, thus making me care about them (or not).

4. Attack on Titan -- This is the only one that I really couldn't wait for the next episode. Still waiting to see if this is a case of the rich class oppressing the poor by extreme means and then having it get out of hand/subverted.
3. Problem Children -- I'm putting this here above the rest just because of Kurousagi and dat ED dance.
2. Kyoukai no Kanata -- This goes here only because I managed to finish it, and maybe because of the idol episode.
1. Gatchaman Crowds -- I dropped this a little more than half-way through. Characters just didn't resonate with me.
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theYchromosome wrote:


TL;DR I'll put it one more way. More or less I consider that every work of fiction starts with an idea or set of ideas. Good writing gives you a clear notion and understanding of that idea, and vice versa for bad. Attack on Titan did all they could with the central idea of the show, and I'm not sure it could have been much better. Gatchaman Crowds wasn't well-written. It just had a better idea. That's it.


I somewhat want to Hug you right now, If anyone could have read my mind any more perfectly, in terms analysis in their flaws, it would be this, so thank you! AoT, its nothing new and actually somewhat dull but its execution is astounding to the point it makes you want more even though you know it's bad for you.
As for GC, I guess to most such as yourself it comes of as being "rare" but just not to me due to the works I have read and was reading during its airing, although they are not animated, so its poor execution just couldn't let me put it on a pedestal no matter how revitalizing its idea was. The best way I can put this, Ideas are art in themselves, We could have the epitome of this art laid upon us, but without proper delivery within its medium it might as well be meaningless scribbles.

Also thanks for the reply, new to the battles, didn't know the analysis would get deeper later on, so I'll have to wait still then.
Btw - Kyousougiga avatar, +1 for you, now that was avant-garde in style and execution.


As for your reasoning with Crowds, I can say that I've, on multiple occasions, had shows and books ruined by things I was studying at the time, so I completely understand the feeling. Also, to be fair, I also don't think it's anything revolutionary or even worth getting into later rounds. But, I definitely think it should make it through this one.

And yeah, Kyousougiga is what happens when great ideas meet great writing and execution. It's the one I really care about winning.
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4- Gatchaman Crowds. -i really enjoy this show. its just a fun show in all aspect.

3- Attack on Titan - its simply revolutionary, and also mikasa.

2- kyoukai no kanata -does not really fit being 3rd but, it is. the show is simply enjoyable.

1- problem children - i simply like the others more.

Chrome, idk why you do this. but you seem to always pit amazing shows with other amazing shows. i understand that they gatta be similar to have a fair vote. well i gatta say, it definately makes things more interesting.
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4. AoT- Im a sci-fi nut and I enjoyed this anime. Great to see a strong female character like Mikasa and a great supporting character as a strategist in Armin.

3. Problem Children Liked the concept of the anime. Never felt like it was dragging out episodes to get to the main point.

2. Gatachman Crowds Still stuck on episode 10. A bizarre show, but not one I felt like I needed to finish or watch immediately.

1. Kyou Great animation and that's about it for me.
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Gatchaman Crowds gets my vote

AOT

others i don't really know
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4 gatchaman crowds ( my very favorite in the summer season!! a very underated show!!! I love its animation and ost. it was fun and colorful. I love utsutsu and hajime)

3- AOT ( action was thrilling, kept me on edge, i like the ost and because of mikasa and christa aka (u know who in the manga) )

2- problem children (a fun series but compared to the other 2 above this has less of an impact on me)

1- kyoukai no kanata ( it was meh, only thing it had for it was the animation.I liked the op/ed though. and love mitsuki and ai chan, then mirai)
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4 - Attack on Titan (It's hard to put into words why Attack on Titan is so amazing without seeming like a giddy fanboy. I don't think I'm going to try either lol. It's awesome. If you don't like it, haters gonna hate I guess.)

3 - Problem Children (This show turned a stupid sounding premise into a great show with lots of cool things. Cool characters, cool action scenes, and cool environments. It was really fun to watch and I looked forward to every episode as it was coming out. It, along with Hyobu Kyosuke, awakened my tastes in really overpowered main characters, and how this was most certainly not a bad thing. In terms of emotional impact? It made me very happy, which is the most I can ask of a show.)

2 - Gatchaman Crowds (I think the most impressive thing about this show is its environment. It's so odd and funky, and despite its weirdness, it's actually quite adept at capturing a wider range of emotion than a whole lot of shows that I've seen. Sometimes the show is funny, sometimes it's action-packed, and sometimes it's just brutal and horrific. That said, the show seemed to have 2 premises that were fighting over each other (Gatchaman, and the cultural impact of social networking [Crowds]). They did not overlap very well in my opinion, and I feel like the anime was watered down because of it. Plus, the unfortunately rushed ending did not help things.)

1 - Kyoukai no Kanata (I liked this show, but I think no matter how well the anime is produced, it's still not much more than a glorified modern-fantasy light novel adaptation, on the same level as Strike the Blood and Tokyo Ravens and their peers. I personally wasn't a fan of how they kind of drop you in the middle of the world without explaining anything, leaving you to figure it out for yourself (but others did like it, so whatever). It is, however, the first action anime that Kyoto Animation has made it far too long, so I hope they keep this up. The show is also surprisingly emotional at times, in a good way, and those moments are some of the high points of the series.)
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Gatchaman Crowds gets my vote

AOT

others i don't really know


vote won't be counted unless you rank them from 1-4 with 4 being the most favorite. also a reason for each is needed.

i especially want this because i want gatchaman crowds to advance past the first round.

you can rate the other two that you didn't watch or know to well by things such as art or the fanbase or anyway you would like, especially since previous votes in here and all years has worked that same way.

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TL;DR I'll put it one more way. More or less I consider that every work of fiction starts with an idea or set of ideas. Good writing gives you a clear notion and understanding of that idea, and vice versa for bad. Attack on Titan did all they could with the central idea of the show, and I'm not sure it could have been much better. Gatchaman Crowds wasn't well-written. It just had a better idea. That's it.


This kind of expresses something I was thinking of on the way in to work.

(1)AOT is ID4 - Well written, excellent effects, lots of hype, summer blockbuster that everyone saw.
(4)Gatchaman Crowds is Unbreakable[ - Still has some good action, but an off-kilter look at superheroes with a good point and some interesting meditations.
(3)Problem Children is like '89 Batman. Well married to it's self of fun, intentionally absurdist at times, unapologetic about it's progatonists being way over the top.
(2)Beyond the Boundary is too Japanese to compare to any american film I can think of.

-- I'm gonna do all my voting from here on out with movie comparisons, it's a fun way to do it :D

-- don't count my vote twice, I re-posted my numbers, but I already voted above :D

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