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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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This was my main point before. Because many easily recognize KlK it does matter how strong its opponent is. If its opponent is not very well known, then I'd argue KlK would win easily despite any antihype. Since RGS is well known, and beloved by many, it did make a difference.

Do you think Non Non Biyori, Kyousougiga, Nagi no Asukara, Silver Spoon, Log Horizon, TWGOK 3, Chihayafuru, or Hatakaru Maou-sama would break the 40 vote mark if KlK had more than 40 votes? The highest any one of them got in their matches is 30 votes so far, so I find it hard to believe the antihype would make up over a dozen votes against KlK then.

It's possible I'm underestimating the RG fanbase, but I think ~40% of RG's votes in that match-up were thanks to it going up against KLK. I expect Magi vs RG to have a much smaller turnout, if I'm wrong I'll retract my hypothesis.
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Quite a selective memory I have. I recall several Railgun votes stating they are not including Silent Party as part of the season. Hmm, sounds kinda biased.
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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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sonic720 wrote:

This was my main point before. Because many easily recognize KlK it does matter how strong its opponent is. If its opponent is not very well known, then I'd argue KlK would win easily despite any antihype. Since RGS is well known, and beloved by many, it did make a difference.

Do you think Non Non Biyori, Kyousougiga, Nagi no Asukara, Silver Spoon, Log Horizon, TWGOK 3, Chihayafuru, or Hatakaru Maou-sama would break the 40 vote mark if KlK had more than 40 votes? The highest any one of them got in their matches is 30 votes so far, so I find it hard to believe the antihype would make up over a dozen votes against KlK then.

It's possible I'm underestimating the RG fanbase, but I think ~40% of RG's votes in that match-up were thanks to it going up against KLK. I expect Magi vs RG to have a much smaller turnout, if I'm wrong I'll retract my hypothesis.


I'm curious about Railgun vs Magi too, to me it's the 2 shows that had surprisingly strong showings.

I'd have to agree with your theory though, there was a lot of kill la kill backlash in that competition.


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*raises hand*

I was actually swayed.

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Ah, and I see while I was tracking those down, AnimeKami already had.


I actually thought of the kamina glasses one, I totally read that as a joke, not as serious >< ><
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KLK would not have hit 40 votes without the thread bump.


IIRC, KLK had right around 35 votes when the promoting/thread bumping began. There was about 9 hours left in the match then as well. With over 9 hours to go, I do think KlK would have made right around 42 votes or so without any promoting. How many other series would get that many votes is what I wonder. Aot would, but I'm not so sure others besides RGS would too. Maybe Magi?
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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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lorreen wrote:

I was going to not vote, because I watched only 3 episodes of each, and dropped both. But then AnimeKami did this:



I therefore vote for Non Non Biyori because of TTGL glasses.

(Also based on what folks wrote in prior rounds, it seems this one might worth another look, while what folks have written about Nagi has not made me at all interested in giving it another chance.)




I hadn't seen that post, AnimeKami's gifs are truly inspiring. AnimeKami for president.
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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

sonic720 wrote:

iblessall wrote:
KLK would not have hit 40 votes without the thread bump.

IIRC, KLK had right around 35 votes when the promoting/thread bumping began. There was about 9 hours left in the match then as well. With over 9 hours to go, I do think KlK would have made right around 42 votes or so without any promoting. How many other series would get that many votes is what I wonder. Aot would, but I'm not so sure others besides RGS would too. Maybe Magi?

Ah, you're probably right.

I just started a new job today and did 8 straight hours of training, so my brain is kinda mush right now. I do think Maou-sama! might have the fanbase to make 40 against KLK. Might be the only show in the entire competition able to give AoT a run for its money. People love Maou-sama! (and rightly so). If I had my way, it'd be Maou-sama v. KSGG in the final with Maou-sama winning.
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Quite a selective memory I have. I recall several Railgun votes stating they are not including Silent Party as part of the season. Hmm, sounds kinda biased.


It just means they didn't feel the Silent Party arc was bad enough to drag the season as a whole down below the level of Kill la Kill. I know most people don't like that arc, but I've only seen a few people who think it's that bad.
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lorreen, you are an intelligent user. I would like to believe I am an intelligent user. I wish we can converse as two intelligent users. How often do you lurk this thread? Really...
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Nagi should have been complete... and would have won this whole damn thing in my mind if it had completed things. That is still my disappointment with that series and I don't see it ever being revisited so it shall forever be a bit empty to me.


I'm legitimately curious as to what you mean when you say Nagi was incomplete. Personally, I see it as a complete story, albeit one with relatively limited appeal. What would it needed to have done to be "complete" in your eyes?
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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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bathroom64 wrote:


Quite a selective memory I have. I recall several Railgun votes stating they are not including Silent Party as part of the season. Hmm, sounds kinda biased.


It just means they didn't feel the Silent Party arc was bad enough to drag the season as a whole down below the level of Kill la Kill. I know most people don't like that arc, but I've only seen a few people who think it's that bad.


I think I've said this before, but I liked Silent party more than I liked sisters.

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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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That's because there was no greater frame of reference, the entire discussion is polarized between two shows.

Personally it was a battle between two 6-out-of-10s, but without any 1-3s or 8-10s how much better somebody thinks something is than something else doesn't get quantified very well. You just have one show at "fail" and another at "pass".

If the votes are close that just means the shows are close to each other, not necessarily close to the top.


I could be remembering incorrectly, but I think I saw a lot of Railgun S votes voicing a lot of praise for the series, regardless of whether or not that praise was relative to Kill la Kill. I would say there is some frame of reference. Railgun S managed to place 1st in its 4-series battle even with people strategically voting against it, and it did a number on Gargantia when they went one-on-one; that battle had the third-highest number of total votes for that round, too. Based on those things, I'd say Railgun S has one of the larger followings among the remaining series, albeit not the largest.

I agree that it can be hard to gauge how close a show is to the top without numerical ratings, but I'm going off of the number of positive things said about Railgun S, not just the number of votes it received.

Again, it's all relative.

Gargantia is another with wide recognition and considerable antihype, and the 4-way had The Eccentric Family and Kyousougiga, two shows with smaller but dedicated fanbases that overlapped a lot which split their votes.

I could be wrong but seriously, RG is not the godkiller it's being cracked up to be.
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Posted 5/19/14 , edited 5/20/14

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I could be wrong but seriously, RG is not the godkiller it's being cracked up to be.


I disagree wholeheartedly.

Railgun takes down a lot of bigwigs in tournaments many times before this thread has been created.

edit: different tournaments
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