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2013 ★ BATTLE

Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Nagi will get my vote. I didn't really like either of them too much(especially Golden Time).

IMO I think Golden Time had very poor execution and very predictable storyline.

Nagi on the on the other had very good execution and a very predictable storyline.

On a side note how many of you have actually seen White Album 2 and thought these other two were better? I'm just curious. This anime for me had great execution and it wasn't predictable.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Main Battle #3: My Vote Goes to Golden Time



Yes, Golden Time is a very, very flawed show. It's not even particularly likable. I'm not fooling myself and believing that Golden Time was the next coming of Toradora! because it very certainly was not. But you know what Golden Time was? Filled with people making terrible choices and hurting each other and sometimes learning and sometimes not. You know, like real life. It's not a show to be enjoyed in the traditional sense; it's a show from which you learn.

It's quite difficult for me to fully articulate what I think about this show, what it means to me and how important I think it is. So, so anyone who is flabbergasted by my choice, I wrote a blog post trying to explain my thoughts. It's not a review; it's a response, because that's all you can do with this show. You choose how you are going to respond to what you see.



Why Not Nagi?
I can sum this up pretty quickly. The second cour, particularly Miuna, was far weaker than the first. We stepped out of Hikari's POV (i.e. out of the best character's POV) and spent 13 episodes watching Miuna mope about and cry to herself. Yes, it looked beautiful, but the second cour was such a wet blanket of overwrought melodrama that it crushed the life out of the entire show.


Looks like this is probably going to be the first battle where I cast a vote for the losing side. /sighs Oh well. Golden Time was never on my radar as one of the best of the year, so if I lose it here, I'll manage.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14

iblessall wrote:


Why Not Nagi?
I can sum this up pretty quickly. The second cour, particularly Miuna, was far weaker than the first. We stepped out of Hikari's POV (i.e. out of the best character's POV) and spent 13 episodes watching Miuna mope about and cry to herself. Yes, it looked beautiful, but the second cour was such a wet blanket of overwrought melodrama that it crushed the life out of the entire show.


Finally someone else who actually sees this awful construct.


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I respect your opinion.

Literally I could with either, but I feel like Nagi's overall package was slightly better than Golden Time's. I think it was the most consistent in terms of quality.


Hahaha, you won't be changing my vote with just that =P
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Skipping this. But Nagi looks nice.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Nagi no Asakura.

Because it's an amazing drama with great characters that creates an enchanting world where you actually believe everything is absolutely possible. It's also done by PA Works and is the most gorgeous anime to ever be produced. And it's just leaps and bounds better than the overhyped yet absolutely disappointing romance comedy that was Golden Time. Uh. Yeah. Nagi no Asakura is one of those gems that if you haven't watched you're doing yourself a disfavor.
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Skipping this. But Nagi looks nice.


Better than nice, tbh.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Abstain. Didn't include either one in my initial vote, and neither one is on my "would re-watch" list. I'll concede that Nagi had nice visuals, but the fish-knee thing really creeped me out.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Golden Time because even though in the end I wasn't fully satisfied, this show fed me enough of interest that I did watch all the way through, and even had me liking and rooting for a key character who I'd almost dropped the show for early on because I disliked her so much. Nagi failed to keep my interest and I dropped after, I think, 3 episodes. Also, how pretty it was just seemed a distraction and the lack of anything looking like it was really underwater aside from there being fishes in the frame was pretty annoying actually.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
This is a close one so far.

Anyway, my vote goes to Golden Time.


Nagi no Asukara -looked- beautiful, but I felt like it never progressed past its premise and only had enough content for one good cour, two was stretched out for way too long. The time skip was a clever device to expand the important cast going into the second cour, but all they really did was add quantity to camouflage the lack of character development.

The plot devices disrupted the story, I guess is what I'm saying. Characters were frozen in stasis for way too long.

And by the end I didn't think any of them were cut out to be in a relationship with anybody, the plot be damned.

Golden Time, on the other hand, sounds a lot more human and a lot less romanticized. I probably won't watch it since it's not the type of story that usually holds my attention, but I'll give it props despite potential faults after reading how it tried to grapple with realistic difficulties in relationships, compared to the whimsical tale that was Nagi no Asukara.

So +1 to Golden Time, it'll be interesting seeing how this battle turns out.


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Side Note: Sh*t, that took me a while. I should be lazier next round.
If it helps, some of us really do read it all once things get to this level.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
When i think about it, Golden Time and Nagi no Asukara really do have similar flaws. I think it just comes down to enjoyment. Other than the visuals, i really don't find much merit in NagiAsu...unlike Golden Time which is a hot topic of discussion but a letdown. Not a vote, just my opinion.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Golden Time: This was relatively fun, but I thought that at points they sacrificed character integrity (made them do something that didn't fit into their personality) simply to create drama. Also, while it was fun, I don't think it excelled in any category either.

I haven't seen Nagi Asu, but from what little discussion I've seen about it, it seems more worthy to win this battle. I'm still voting Golden Time though, to soften a potentially crushing defeat.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14

Insomnist wrote:

ShawnHacaga wrote:
Side Note: Sh*t, that took me a while. I should be lazier next round.
If it helps, some of us really do read it all once things get to this level.


This.

I didn't read everything in the preliminary round, or even in the 4-way ranking rounds (though I did still skim quite a bit), but for the main battles I do. Last year this resulted in my starting to watch series I hadn't, and in going back to pick up at least one show I'd dropped!
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
This battle is easy, Golden Time gets my vote hands down.

To be honest, I don't really see the appeal with Nagi besides the way it is wonderfully animated. Hanasaku Iroha and Tari Tari left me with much better impressions of their characters and story than Nagi as far as PA Works shows go. I connected with Ohana and the workers at the inn on a much deeper level than any of the school kids or even the adults in Nagi. While Nagi looks wonderful, and has the typical trappings of a well executed PA Works production, I really did not connect much with its story or characters. Beyond that I found Miuna and Manaka to be quite annoying and more immature for their age than I'd expect. They cried and sulked way too much for my liking, granted Banri cried a bunch too but he had good reasons at least.

Really, GT, despite its flaws with too much drama and the ghost stuff at times, was a very gripping story. I also really liked the characters in GT, especially the side characters, even those that annoyed me to some degree had redeeming qualities to them. Things felt surprisingly true to life int their relationships, discounting the supernatural stuff of course, and I really liked that aspect. Sure Banri cried and panicked, but he was also very comical and endearing when he was not having one of his existential crises. I saw multiple sides of Banri and Kouko, and the rest, that made them more complete individuals with true to life flaws in my eyes. Who can forget Banri cross-dressing for the party and the joke about him being Mitsuo's lover, ha. The comedy helped lighten some of the more overly dramatic moments and brought more depth to it all. The females in GT were also more compelling for me to watch, albeit a bit crazy too.

So while Nagi looked better on the surface, GT was the story with the characters I was eagerly tuning in to watch each week. BTW, I don't hate Nagi, I do enjoy it some, I just did not connect with it on the same level as GT or even other PA Works anime I liked. Something about the way Nagi's characters were portrayed just felt off and distanced them from me.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Nagi no Asukara gmv.
Beautiful art.
Great characters, every single one, even Manaka. I liked them all.
Great plot.
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Posted 4/29/14 , edited 4/29/14
Nagi no Asukara - better artwork, more effective emotional impact, better characters... Golden Time may be more realistic but who cares about that?
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