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Posted 3/31/14 , edited 3/31/14

mow123 wrote:

how many people here can actually even name a 30 year old anime that isn't miyazaki and din't air for more than 7+ years, the earliest ones I start to even think about are around 20 years old. Hell even just from when I started watching anime to now a lot of "insanely popular" anime are now pretty much dead now. I can name 30 year old anime but I haven't seen it. I still do think there will be a few, but they only happen like once every 5-10 years. Some people are naming shows that did horrid in sales, but are just seen as good. Those shows have pretty much never been even poplar. people will be talking about naruto many years from now, shit or not, it has been very popular for a very long time. Anything very poplar will last a long time, how good it was doesn't do a whole lot it how often people remember and how many that counts. Cowboy beebop is in there, its been around for enough time that it should be dead but its isn't, same with neon genesis and even trigun, trigun didn't do that well in japan as far as I know so it may not be. The thing about neon genesis is there have been recent movies, sayin hey this is still alive. Its hard to tell if something is dead or not too. Just cause some people are talking about it doesn't mean its alive.

Neon Genesis Evangelion is different... It's too popular to say that... It has made over one billion dollars worth.... that's a lot... It's one of the most original animes ever created. Even if it's not my favorite, it will definitely withstand the test of time.

Also, the fact that DBZ already withstood the last 30 years, just shows that it'll probably survive longer as well. It was the shonen manga that shaped how most other really big shonen manga now work plotwise...

I also didn't put up my favorite shows, because To aru Majutsu no Index is my favorite series, but I don't think it'll become a classic because not enough people have seen it...
Posted 3/31/14 , edited 3/31/14
Cuticle detective inaba! One of the best things that Crunchyroll has ever added on here. What a masterpiece.

Whoever made the decision to get that are the bestest
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Posted 3/31/14 , edited 4/1/14

windsagio wrote:

I think people will add the timelessness. As an example, Cowboy bebop is a good story told well. It's not revolutionary or timeless, it's just 'good' with *excellent* action. It's also probably one of the most common entries on this list.

It's not that it's not great (it is), but it's timeless classic quality I'd argue comes from the fact that a lot of people grew up watching it on Toonami.

I half agree and half don't.

I agree that Cowboy Bebop displays the "skill" I was talking about rather nebulously before; it's an excellently executed series with an impressive story that rewards viewer attention in a unique way. It's not an action flick you can just replace with the next more spectacular action flick, Cowboy Bebop is its own unique and rewarding experience.

The fact that it was on Toonami, though, I don't think is relevant. There is no common thread saying that being on Toonami makes an anime a classic. If anything, for older series like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell they're on Toonami partly because they're classics. But the only thing Toonami does is publicize the work to an audience.

I just think you're reversing cause and effect. Citizen Kane isn't an influential classic because people still know about it, people still know about it because it's an influential classic. And I'll go out on a limb and say most people probably haven't seen it, either--I haven't--which is why I don't think popularity is even a necessary factor for timelessness.
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Posted 3/31/14 , edited 4/1/14

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Sword Art Online, whether you like it or not.

Nope! its a decent show but its not a classic!
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Battle Angel Alita

Cause it'll be 30 years before Cameron gets over his giant blue cat girls and finally makes the movie adaptation

(which will probably suck, but still...)
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Some of my classics would not fit many people's list. But I would watch these again any time and I think they either have held up well or will 30 years from now.

Serial Experiment Lain
Silent Mobius
Full Metal Panic
Azumanga Daioh
Crest/Banner of the Stars
Bubblegum Crisis 2032 (the OVAnot 2040)
Clannad/Clannad After Story
Cutey Honey/Cutie Honey (basically it is the character not necessarily the individual series)
Dirty Pair (original TV series)
Excel Saga
Fruits Basket
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Oh! My Goddess (The OVAs, the Movie, and the 2 season TV)
Please Teacher
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
School Days
Cowboy Bebop
You're Under Arrest
Love Hina
Elfen Lied
Great Teacher Onizuka (GTO)
Rurouni Kenshin

This is a big list but I have watched too much over the past 18 years. I'm sure I forgot some also. But its an opinion so who really cares but me anyway.
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Posted 3/31/14 , edited 4/1/14
Toradora for sure and Mysterious Girlfriend x if it ever gets a second season,
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Posted 4/1/14 , edited 4/1/14
Timeless anime I define as something which covers universal human themes and which isn't locked into the fads and fashions of a contemporary age. That being said, I think these are a few which would work:

Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo -- the mother of all Japanese time travel stories, though really it's the original story from the 1960's and not the 2006 anime that's timeless
Hotaru no Haka -- war, death, loss, and the guilt of surviving
Tonari no Totoro -- family, coming of age, innocence, and one's place in the natural world
Saishuu Heiki Kanojo -- death, love and war
Steins;Gate -- probably the best written time travel anime, and arguably the best game to anime adaption of all time
Gunbuster -- the definitive GAINAX anime, time travel with heavy borrowing from 1960's SF, big robots and GAINAX bounce
Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon -- the most influential and definitive magical girl anime of all time
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Posted 4/1/14 , edited 4/1/14
Boku no Pico. Never gets old. <333
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Posted 4/1/14 , edited 4/2/14
I'd go for Rurouni Kenshin and Evangelion
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If you don't recognize this guy, then you've already lost (whatever that is supposed to mean)

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Code Geass, FMAB, AOT
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mow123 wrote:Gundam is classic cause they keep bring it back every so often. Do you think if there was only one gundam people would remember the first still? Same with macross.

I do actually. Considering that the Japanese think of the original MS Gundam as their version of Star Trek: TOS (both were wildly popular in reruns but didn't get to finish their original run due to poor ratings, incessant spinoffs, new and popular movies, I could go on). MS Gundam aired in 1979, and is still a part of the Japanese/American pop culture. Seriously. The Japanese release stamps, full sized walking Suits (planned), and the Japanese Military even started a Gundam Project, just like the US had the "Star Wars Defense". ( )

The fact that a show that is 35 years old continues to survive in the vogue means that it is well established and most likely a classic.

Now discussing what shows are classics in America vs Japan is tricky. Over here, DBZ, Digimon, and Pokemon will be remembered for decades, because it really influenced our generation. Even people that don't watch Anime have seen them. Further, shows that "anime nerds" will consider classics? Akira, Cowboy Beebop, Samurai Champloo, Gundam, Ghost in the Shell, and more. These are just off the top of my head.

As for what shows Japan considers classics? I don't know enough other than to say Akira, Gundam, and certainly Beebop.
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