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♛ 2014 MIDYEAR BEST GUY CONTEST♛

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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

AnimeKami wrote:

In the future, aka Avid's tournament; I hope EVERYONE uses the 36 Stratagems and The Art of War.

You would imagine that voting for your best guy is the optimal solution, but no, it is not.

You might also think that forming teams or what not is also optimal, to an extent "together we are strong" is a good concept, and I would say that is a start.

How many fans like AoT only to have their dreams crushed? Or when the devious works of Railgun. See, it is not who you want to win, it is who you want to lose.

Which would you want to bet on? 1 in 64 chance of winning or 63 in 64 chance of losing. I would take the 63.


Actually it would be quite advantageous for people to form groups in my tournament.

At least up until the 1v1s.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

Drangnoer wrote:



Thank you, I appreciate those who value brains and depth of character over brawn.


*nods slightly* but I still dont see eye to eye on everything


AnimeKami wrote:


Sacae89 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

gold v loomy

ciros v max

AK v jtav



Hmmm I need someone to v with


Steph v sacae

.


I can not verse myself, you need to try again


AnimeKami wrote:


Death?



what you on about now AK


remassie wrote:


Sacae89 wrote:

OMG CR STOP

I dont want to keep entering codes in to send pms


It's a (not-so)subtle push to buy premium



THATS IT?! I was wondering cause I never noticed this before! *has always been premium* lol Thats such bullshit
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

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I like Protoss best but I main random.


Ahh yea, thats right I remember you telling me that
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

AvidReader110 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

In the future, aka Avid's tournament; I hope EVERYONE uses the 36 Stratagems and The Art of War.

You would imagine that voting for your best guy is the optimal solution, but no, it is not.

You might also think that forming teams or what not is also optimal, to an extent "together we are strong" is a good concept, and I would say that is a start.

How many fans like AoT only to have their dreams crushed? Or when the devious works of Railgun. See, it is not who you want to win, it is who you want to lose.

Which would you want to bet on? 1 in 64 chance of winning or 63 in 64 chance of losing. I would take the 63.


Actually it would be quite advantageous for people to form groups in my tournament.

At least up until the 1v1s.


Are you telling to use the art of war?
Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

remassie wrote:

hmm counter to my whistling emotes I actually believe those comparisons: Despite Hanayamata being really similar to Love Live Season 1, the cast of Hanayamata were way more to my liking...

I honestly couldn't remember anything about kotori's personality, so couldn't figure where to throw her

and I don't like Nico so I wouldn't even think to compare her to any of those girls

*shots fired*
*runs for the hills*


That's fine, differing opinions, personally I kinda felt about the whole cast how you feel about Kotori. They were all cute, but their personalities never blended to anything beyond their archetypes and I never cared about them characters. I didn't even remember Tami and Machi's names by the end. So it lacked emotional impact and the whole show sorta plummeted for me as a result. I liked the dramatics of the way LL! pulled it off a lot better. The finale was very pretty though, and I loved Hana's entrance.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

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AnimeKami wrote:


I like Protoss best but I main random.


Ahh yea, thats right I remember you telling me that


Yeah. You know why?
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

AnimeKami wrote:


Harpuia23 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


I like Protoss best but I main random.


Ahh yea, thats right I remember you telling me that


Yeah. You know why?


Nope, you just said you main random the first time I brought it up. I would imagine it is for one of those portrait achievements maybe? If I remember, they were pretty epic some of them
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

Sacae89 wrote:


Drangnoer wrote:



Thank you, I appreciate those who value brains and depth of character over brawn.


*nods slightly* but I still dont see eye to eye on everything


AnimeKami wrote:


Sacae89 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

gold v loomy

ciros v max

AK v jtav



Hmmm I need someone to v with


Steph v sacae

.


I can not verse myself, you need to try again


AnimeKami wrote:


Death?



what you on about now AK


remassie wrote:


Sacae89 wrote:

OMG CR STOP

I dont want to keep entering codes in to send pms


It's a (not-so)subtle push to buy premium



THATS IT?! I was wondering cause I never noticed this before! *has always been premium* lol Thats such bullshit


Always encouraging the use of the art of war.

His post had death. I was a bit late on the snipe.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

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maxgale wrote:

But Maki doesn't put up a facade. That is why she is so emotionally honest, and subverts the usual tsundere trope. She isn't self-delusional, which is what defines the other girls (and the tsundere). She might doubt herself occasionally, as she does somewhat with her ability as an artist, but she doesn't delude herself into thinking she's someone she's not, and her responses to the others and the story show that: for example, while she may childishly believe in somethings, she does so earnestly. Her loneliness also shows this, though to get into this element of her character would necessarily involve Nico (especially DAT SONG <3).

I would disagree that Honoka is honest. While the series wants to make that part of narrative, it doesn't reinforce it. She's the most dishonest, the most self-delusional and self-serving. But that's a character study that goes off topic.......



Being a tsundere is literally putting up a facade and being emotionally distant, that's what the archetype is. She's only able to be honest when someone teases away the tsun completely and that means she doesn't subvert the trope because she's too afraid/unsure to say it plainly. Whether that's Nico or any of the other members that tease her. On the scale she's a pretty deredere tsundere and I do think she's a sweet girl. That's about it though.

Continuing with her being an innocent young girl on the inside. As an example, I feel like the younger "her" from the OVA was supposed to be a metaphor for her true self. She tried to say how she really felt to all the girls, but when she reverted back to her older self she couldn't say it.

I do agree that in the loneliness aspect. I almost feel like Nico and Maki are brought together a lot because they were the only ones that didn't have really close friends before µ's like for example HonoKotoUmi, RinPana, EliNozo so they bonded over that aspect.

Honoka is self-serving and self-delusional, but I don't see how you can say she's dishonest. She literally just says what on her mind at any given time like it's fact and pulls everyone with her. There were times she doubted herself because of mistakes she made, and maybe was unsure of her feelings. I don't think she was hiding anything though...I believe she just honestly didn't know. Then the other girls were able to pull her back from this, just like she pulled them.


Bolded part is where I agree, and why she subverts it. She pushes others to tease her. Like I originally said, the tsundere is all about distance, and pushing others away. But Maki uses tsundere traits to draw others in. That is the most notable way she subverts the trope. She is honest about her feelings, she doesn't delude herself (classically tsundere is the one who won't admit her feelings) and we know she is honest not only through her songs, which is the most obvious way to communicate to the audience and the other girls her feelings (and if it were the only way then she'd be a classical tsundere), but because her interactions with the other girls are predicated entirely on those elements of distance and honesty: she draws the other girls in, as with the example of training another, and it isn't duplicity (she isn't using the other as a way to accomplish her own feelings or desires........that is entirely Honoka, and one of the reasons she is so dishonest) but it is her emotional honesty that allows her to recognize the locked away feelings of the others, and to bring them out by sharing her true emotional self with them.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

Harpuia23 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


Harpuia23 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


I like Protoss best but I main random.


Ahh yea, thats right I remember you telling me that


Yeah. You know why?


Nope, you just said you main random the first time I brought it up. I would imagine it is for one of those portrait achievements maybe?


No so I can qq.

If I play all the races then certainly I have a different level of crediablility. I switched from Protoss for that reason. I do not qq though.

It is the foundation I set for every forum.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

AnimeKami wrote:

No so I can qq.

If I play all the races then certainly I have a different level of crediablility. I switched from Protoss for that reason. I do not qq though.

It is the foundation I set for every forum.


I see.... I need to start taking notes

Even though I played Protoss like once or twice
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

AnimeKami wrote:


maxgale wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

gold v loomy

max v loli

AK v jtav



Search your feelings, you know this to be true.


You are neither a Jedi nor sith.



Because I have no use for either padawans or pawns.


Merely salt.
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Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

Ciros2290 wrote:

That's fine, differing opinions, personally I kinda felt about the whole cast how you feel about Kotori. They were all cute, but their personalities never blended to anything beyond their archetypes and I never cared about them characters. I didn't even remember Tami and Machi's names by the end. So it lacked emotional impact and the whole show sorta plummeted for me as a result. I liked the dramatics of the way LL! pulled it off a lot better. The finale was very pretty though, and I loved Hana's entrance.


a backdrop of stars and falling sakura in the moonlight can damn near make any entrance impressive, and add to that standing on a torii gate, so sugoi. props to madhouse.




I also liked that Madhouse didn't resort to using 3dcg models for the dances. that was always jarring in LL!
Posted 9/24/14 , edited 9/24/14

maxgale wrote:



I think we're just going to keep running in circles so let's just agree to disagree. We both love NicoMaki and that's all that really matters.


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