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TERRAFORMARS Uncensored 24 hours Starting Saturday 6pm PT

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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/13/14

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lugiamania wrote:

Actually money had nothing to do with getting the uncensored version; it wasn't even a decision by the production studio or licesnor but rather the television broadcasters in Japan.

Would it be safe to say that this series was the exception to "money had nothing to do with it", rather than the rule?



There is a slight difference between the hard violence censorship and the usual obfuscation of mildly sexual content.
While one could argue that the latter is a sort of sales pitch argument for the disc release nowadays (it really isn't, the rules are fuzzy and it's usually done to prevent any sort of complaint to be sent to the stations/the board governing 'television content safety'), the censorship of hard violence and more explicit sexual content is usually quite stringent and extensive - just as has happened with Terraformars.
Without the black bars this show would probably be impossible to air on any of the freely accessible TV stations in Japan (except certain PayTV stations - which automatically limits the audience).
Visual censorship is tolerated in Japan to a much higher degree than over in western countries (where, if you take the US, audio is more often censored - take the F-word or N-word being beeped out for example). This cultural gap has to be kept in mind when the censorship issue comes up.

As has been pointed out, Japan reels heavily after gruesome murders (or other high profile crimes) - in particular when minors are involved as the victims, or, even worse, as the perpetrators. Unlike many western states, Japan has a rather small amount of those high profile crimes, and every single murder or other high profile crime will come up extensively nationwide in the media. There is some backlash into TV content for a while after such cases become known to the public and there have been several instances of individual episodes being held back or canceled from the TV run because their content was reminiscent of recent events in 'real life'.
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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/13/14

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My question about money was in regards to whether most publishers would request a higher payment from CR for uncensored versions.

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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/13/14

TheAncientOne wrote:
My question about money was in regards to whether most publishers would request a higher payment from CR for uncensored versions.


To my knowledge we always try to get the least censored version possible. I don't think there is a bigger price tag involved if it is regular TV material.
I'd assume that more money would be asked for if we tried to acquire Blu-ray master level material. In most cases that material received a partial rework anyway, beyond the removal of steam, random objects in the camera focus or light beams from hell.
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Best piece of news all week!
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Now I can watch it!
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I imagine this took some serious negotiation between CR and the rights-holder. Nice work, whoever pulled this off.
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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/14/14

shinryou wrote:

To my knowledge we always try to get the least censored version possible. I don't think there is a bigger price tag involved if it is regular TV material.
I'd assume that more money would be asked for if we tried to acquire Blu-ray master level material. In most cases that material received a partial rework anyway, beyond the removal of steam, random objects in the camera focus or light beams from hell.

It is a third level I'm more interested in, which is what AT-X usually gets, but the broadcast stations don't.

Take for example, So, I Can't Play H, which aired uncensored on AT-X, yet CR has the censored version. If more money wasn't being asked for the AT-X version, I would be curious why CR doesn't often get it.

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i hope we get it ASAP because i read somewhere that we are getting 12 episodes and im not rewatching the whole anime just to watch the uncensored version
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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/14/14

TheAncientOne wrote:
It is a third level I'm more interested in, which is what AT-X usually gets, but the broadcast stations don't.

Take for example, So, I Can't Play H, which aired uncensored on AT-X, yet CR has the censored version. If more money wasn't being asked for the AT-X version, I would be curious why CR doesn't often get it.


Possibly a less censored version was never offered to CR by the publisher (which is rather small and not as active as many of the others CR deals with usually). AT-X is in a special position anyway, as it's a PayTV station which is rather inclined to have exclusive premium content. Possibly the deal between the publisher and AT-X ruled out that any other party gets access to the clean masters. (All the other stations airing it were smaller local independent stations and got the censored version.)
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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/14/14

lugiamania

Actually money had nothing to do with getting the uncensored version; it wasn't even a decision by the production studio or licesnor but rather the television broadcasters in Japan. Due to unfortunate recent events in Japan, the broadcasters have become stricter in their censorship of things aired on TV.

In this case, we are very glad that we were able to talk things over with the licensors to obtain the uncensored version. At this current time, no broadcast of any type for TERRAFORMARS is uncensored, even in Japan.


Off Topic: Not to detract from the seriousness of the incident you linked but wouldn't/shouldn't the first response to BEING ATTACKED BY YOUR DAUGHTER WITH A METAL BAT, the same girl who had previously tried to dissect a cat, be to admit said daughter to the local psychiatric hospital? You know... BEFORE her condition worsens and she goes off and kills someone?


On Topic: Terraformars being aired uncensored in near (?) future is awesome news.
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Posted 10/13/14 , edited 10/14/14
Yeah, I echo others when I say that I understand the censoring. I've been watching anime for a long time and I've seen the censors and content change over time. The same argument/heated discussion was made over the missing drink/juice/wine/champagne/whatever on Sailor Moon Crystal. Times change, culture changes and censors change. What was allowed on TV in the US 10/20/30 years ago is vastly different than now, and vice versa.

The censorship isn't the problem as much as how it was done. I understand that Crunchy has no role in the censoring and the broadcast company has to follow the laws. I place blame on this for the creators/whoever makes the decision to make it available for broadcast. When making such a violent manga into an anime, knowing full well the censorship that would be imposed on it, they should have either toned down the violence or made the anime for a straight to DVD/BluRay release.

I remember the head of Cartoon Network saying once that she absolutely loved Elfen Lied and wanted so badly to get it for Adult Swim but decided not to, knowing full well that the censors and editing would leave the anime a incomprehensible shredded version of it's full glory.

If this anime couldn't be shown uncensored or less censored, and they felt the need to stay true to the manga, then it should have never ever been offered up to broadcast television.

End of rant... better news! Thanks so much to Crunchy and Warner Japan for offering us the uncensored version. =^_^=
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Posted 10/14/14 , edited 10/14/14
What I want to understand is how Madhouse Studios get away with mainly uncensored content as well Akame ga Kill. Either the people in charge always have rows with the Television Agency in charge of content safety or perhaps the airing time is different.

I am honestly fed up with it. It must be harder for Crunchyroll because their members are paying for a service that doesn't provide excellent satisfaction.

If you ask me, since the members are the only party that funds this service and gets no profit from it, in the future, Crunchyroll should set up direct links with content holders and respectable Crunchyroll members when people are crying out to have issues discussed.
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Yeah why not offer the unconcerned version to the subscription holders. (Sooner rather than later) Instead of watching ending scene progressions up with ???. Cant tell a story without painting a picture. Right?
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I can ecco the many concerns of others on here. I was glad I could attend the screening of this show because I stopped watching it. I have been paying for CR since 2011 I think because I love what you do but this censorship is getting pretty bad. Why am I, a Paying 31 year old CR member, to watch 1/5 of the screen or stare at stupid black circles (looking at your teraformers EP3).

Enough negative this is a step in the right direction and it makes me happy. There are still other shows Akame Ga Kill, Cross Ange, and a few shows from last season which I will no longer watch here and that makes me sad.

Here is my Request, CR knows my age as a paying member, can we please have an option to opt in for uncensored content? I would pay a premium for it, 10 bucks more a year for no more black boxes on all shows possible? CR has always wanted to be family friendly, and I think with good parental control allowing uncensored content will not change this.

Please give me the choice, I will keep choosing to support your great team. I know this is not always CRs choice so I urge you to pass along my feelings to our friends in Japan.
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