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Why do people hate on Sword Art Online?

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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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Because they're SNOBS.

If it's not deep enough, then it must be dumb. Then, everyone who watches it is guilty by association.

Well, then how come Lucky Star doesn't have nearly as much hate towards it as far as I know?

There are plenty of shows about next to nothing.

Let the snobs be snobs, and let those of us enjoy stuff keep enjoying them because those things are enjoyable to us.

As for claims of SAO being "deep", personally I haven't read any.


There's a difference between shows that aim to be a compelling narrative and a slice of life comedy. Shows don't necessarily have to be "deep" to be good, but they should at least set out what they're trying to achieve.



...Which is to entertain.


I'm sorry but I don't think you know how to read. How old are you again?
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14
Not all people hate on SAO. I don't. I do have to admit, it's getting a little boring but still good.
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Its an enjoyable series to me. Not perfect, and some parts made me go "seriously, wtf..."
Like people said before, i dont think it deserve the praise its getting, but I honestly don't believe it deserves the harsh criticism its getting either.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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Personally I liked the Kirito/Asuna romance. Don't know why but it really drew me in for some reason. Then they went into the ALO story arc where Asuna went from competent fighter to damsel in distress.


Re: Asuna suddenly being a damsel in distress in the second half of SAO, that's really due to what Sugou did, not anything that was "wrong" with Asuna. Sugou actually altered her settings and abilities using admin login; remember when she tried to see that passcode for the cage and her vision just around the keypad blurred?

If she hadn't had her capabilities locked down she'd have easily gotten herself free, no need to wait around. But including that as a reason for SAO being worse the second half of season one than the first half has always struck me as being rather similar to blaming the victim of a crime for being the victim of a crime.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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nanikore2 wrote:


johanifer33 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

Because they're SNOBS.

If it's not deep enough, then it must be dumb. Then, everyone who watches it is guilty by association.

Well, then how come Lucky Star doesn't have nearly as much hate towards it as far as I know?

There are plenty of shows about next to nothing.

Let the snobs be snobs, and let those of us enjoy stuff keep enjoying them because those things are enjoyable to us.

As for claims of SAO being "deep", personally I haven't read any.


There's a difference between shows that aim to be a compelling narrative and a slice of life comedy. Shows don't necessarily have to be "deep" to be good, but they should at least set out what they're trying to achieve.



...Which is to entertain.


I'm sorry but I don't think you know how to read. How old are you again?


A compelling narrative doesn't have to be entertaining. And it doesn't make sense to compare it against a slice of life comedy since there can be compelling narrative within that genre as well. But nice ad hominem anyways. Classy.
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people hate it cause its all down hill from ep like 3. starts wicked awesome and interesting then devolves into a mary sue harem with horridly predictable plot. like i guessed death gun the first time i met him... lamesauce.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

johanifer33 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


johanifer33 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

Because they're SNOBS.

If it's not deep enough, then it must be dumb. Then, everyone who watches it is guilty by association.

Well, then how come Lucky Star doesn't have nearly as much hate towards it as far as I know?

There are plenty of shows about next to nothing.

Let the snobs be snobs, and let those of us enjoy stuff keep enjoying them because those things are enjoyable to us.

As for claims of SAO being "deep", personally I haven't read any.


There's a difference between shows that aim to be a compelling narrative and a slice of life comedy. Shows don't necessarily have to be "deep" to be good, but they should at least set out what they're trying to achieve.



...Which is to entertain.


I'm sorry but I don't think you know how to read. How old are you again?


...and you didn't read what I wrote. You don't need to personally attack me.

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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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johanifer33 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


johanifer33 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

Because they're SNOBS.

If it's not deep enough, then it must be dumb. Then, everyone who watches it is guilty by association.

Well, then how come Lucky Star doesn't have nearly as much hate towards it as far as I know?

There are plenty of shows about next to nothing.

Let the snobs be snobs, and let those of us enjoy stuff keep enjoying them because those things are enjoyable to us.

As for claims of SAO being "deep", personally I haven't read any.


There's a difference between shows that aim to be a compelling narrative and a slice of life comedy. Shows don't necessarily have to be "deep" to be good, but they should at least set out what they're trying to achieve.



...Which is to entertain.


I'm sorry but I don't think you know how to read. How old are you again?


A compelling narrative doesn't have to be entertaining. And it doesn't make sense to compare it against a slice of life comedy since there can be compelling narrative within that genre as well. But nice ad hominem anyways. Classy.


I love how you feel like you just "destroyed" my argument when you didn't even read what I was replying to.

Balzack was wondering why people weren't complaining about Lucky Star the same way they were complaining about Sword Art Online. I made an example that they were both trying to achieve different things. One was more of a simple comedy, while the other was going for something a little deeper. And please don't try to nit pick at what I'm saying. There are shows that could try to do both.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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I love how you feel like you just "destroyed" my argument when you didn't even read what I was replying to.

Balzack was wondering why people weren't complaining about Lucky Star the same way they were complaining about Sword Art Online. I made an example that they were both trying to achieve different things. One was more of a simple comedy, while the other was going for something a little deeper. And please don't try to nit pick at what I'm saying. There are shows that could try to do both.


Yes I read all of the posts. What is it with you and telling people that they can't read? Is that like your only comeback to everything? It's rather rude, you should consider other approaches.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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Thank you for being a voice of reason in what became yet another SAO rant thread, haha.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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Thank you for being a voice of reason in what became yet another SAO rant thread, haha.


The thing that really gets me is that I don't even love the anime. I watched it a couple times while it was airing and had a pretty good time with it. And like most of the hundreds of anime series I watch...that was pretty much the extent of it as far as season 1 was concerned.

From the amount of time I've spent defending this damn anime you'd think I sleep in SAO sheets every night while clutching my Asuna body pillow. But really I just can't stand the fact that when the mood strikes me there's no place I can go to favorably discuss the anime with other fans without the thread being hijacked and my posts be buried by an endless stream of hate.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

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I love how you feel like you just "destroyed" my argument when you didn't even read what I was replying to.

Balzack was wondering why people weren't complaining about Lucky Star the same way they were complaining about Sword Art Online. I made an example that they were both trying to achieve different things. One was more of a simple comedy, while the other was going for something a little deeper. And please don't try to nit pick at what I'm saying. There are shows that could try to do both.


Exactly how deep? Deep as in "deep enough for your satisfaction"?

As far as I'm concerned, an "achievement criteria" is incoherent unless the creators actually stated exactly what they were trying to do. In that light, you're just inserting your own vague requirement.
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Because it's not very good.
Writing is pretty awful, characters are all one dimensional and Kirito is the ultimate self insert ultimate perfect badass.
It also tries to be a harem even though Asuna is supposed to be his one true love.

It's just not really a good anime, the fights are cool, that's about it.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14
It was good until:
ALO:
-fairies
-much incest
-much pedophilia
-attempted rape of a once important and competent character

GGO:
-Asuna and Sinon are now fanservice objects instead of awesome characters.
-freaking harem
-Kiriro getting a bit cozy with Sinon despite already being with Asuna. And absolutely nothing is done to clear this issue even though it would've been simple to fix.
-MORE attempted rape.

Basically it went off the deep end and into creeper territory. I keep watching in hopes of the series eventually redeeming itself. But so far...eh.
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

nanikore2 wrote:


johanifer33 wrote:



I love how you feel like you just "destroyed" my argument when you didn't even read what I was replying to.

Balzack was wondering why people weren't complaining about Lucky Star the same way they were complaining about Sword Art Online. I made an example that they were both trying to achieve different things. One was more of a simple comedy, while the other was going for something a little deeper. And please don't try to nit pick at what I'm saying. There are shows that could try to do both.


Exactly how deep? Deep as in "deep enough for your satisfaction"?

As far as I'm concerned, an "achievement criteria" is incoherent unless the creators actually stated exactly what they were trying to do. In that light, you're just inserting your own vague requirement.


No, what I'm doing is judging the story by it's own merit. If a show is trying to tell me a story and fails to build a proper world, develop their characters, has horrible pacing, I'm going to judge it as such.
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