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Why do people hate on Sword Art Online?

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Posted 10/27/14 , edited 10/27/14
I am fine with how SAO was at the start, the second part I was okay with when they became fairies but I still prefer part one. And now the new part I just think it shouldn't of happen. Its like the saying quit while you ahead.
Posted 10/27/14 , edited 10/27/14
Cause its garbage. JK
The first arc was good but after that everything went straight downhill.
If you want a good anime that actually has MMO qualities or video game qualities in the anime watch Log Horizon or the .hack series.
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Because people like to hate on something that is popular. Happens to every popular TV show, movie, and "insert-item-here". Just a nature of life. And the people hating almost always will be the loudest minority. So that is unfortunately all you will ever hear.
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Posted 10/27/14 , edited 10/27/14
"Because it's popular" would be an excuse given by a person who typically lacks the desire to formulate their own thoughts and feelings on a topic.
I didn't care for it when it came out, I gave it a chance, I can't say that I particularly like everything about it, especially in ALO when they make the strong female lead into the damsel in distress, we can get into the finer points of having your mind trapped into a system by force through an external cause, but in the end it is just Mario needing to go to the next castle.
ALO did have one of my favorite fight scenes though.
Shy of that, it's just another harem anime with mildly different external forces working against you and the hero sticks to one specific lady despite having a group of them hanging around.
GGO was straight forward and because of that had a weak story. Sure, we may not have determined that it was the gal's buddy and his brother doing that in real life, but it was a simple and believable thing.
Now S2 is going into Norse mythos, of course they're calling Barnstokkr it's more familiar and later Excalibur name.

Now I do enjoy Log Horizon, and I did enjoy .Hack//Sign (but not the later series). Both didn't give a direct explanation as to why they were stuck in the system, and while the threat of dying in game equals death in real life is sorta bad, I'd be more afraid of dying in game and potentially losing my memories. It may just be due to a bit more indirect critical thinking involved in them over SAO. Who knows!

Heck, you want to go nerd rage on me? I don't care for Attack on Titan, seen it all the way through, even giving it a chance to spark something in me with Toonami's airings, but I just don't care for it.
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Kinaesthetic wrote:

Because people like to hate on something that is popular. Happens to every popular TV show, movie, and "insert-item-here". Just a nature of life. And the people hating almost always will be the loudest minority. So that is unfortunately all you will ever hear.



lol people don't hate it because it's popular, people hate it because they genuinely hated the second arch, and for VERY good reason.

I mean the main focal point of the show, the main idea that interested people- die in game die in real life, somehow living in game premise disappeared and turned into some love story that you could 100percent predict.

The producers even realized that that's the part people loved, and they've tried very hard to recreate it in this second season, which I think they've done a decent job at doing.

People were drawn to the first idea of SAO. Kind of like when a sequel to a popular game comes out and people prefer the first because a lot of the original ideas are gone within the successor. I personally didn't hate it or anything, but I really wish that it just ended after the 13th episode or whatever it was.
Posted 10/27/14 , edited 10/27/14

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Aren't those people called "hipsters" or something?




tl;dr: if you believe hipsters exist, you are a plebeian.


While I agree with your explanation on why people use the label hipsters, people who reject the mainstream just to reject it do exist, just as much as people hate on SAO just to fit in.
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Posted 10/27/14 , edited 10/28/14

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Everybody spreading this hate and slander against SAO, I suggest you try to read the light novels. Sometimes we complain so much yet understand so little. The anime was loosely based on the light novels. And for all of you complaining and saying that the writing was bad/bland/dumb etc, tell me, how many successful published works have you written lately to become such an expert on these things? The anime was intentionally made to be flashy, because flashy is what sells. But when you have only a text based medium, you understand a lot more about Kirito as a person rather than a total OP badass like everyone is throwing out there.

Kirito was simply a man on a mission. He completed his mission. Why all this hate? :/


With all due respect, this is a terrible idea, its's a shallow and obvious attempt to sidestep criticism. People often say things like this in relation to bad adaptations., ie the Twighlight books are better than the moves, same for Harry Potter, DBZ manga is better than the anime, so and so forth. We are talking about the SAO anime, not the light novels. The anime needs to be judged purely on its own merits and not those of the source material.
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@lewisl1 respect in mind. I was judging the anime. But there's many people here that are judging it based on things like plot/harem stuff/rapey tendancies/no strong females/Kirito being too strong.

If we want to address those issues then that's fine.

I believe it was stated that somebody didn't like ALO because of "rapey tentacle scenes". If we go back to the first season, something similar happened with Silica when fighting plant monsters.

Strong female characters? Most of the girls are strong in their own ways. Just because they aren't as OP as Kirito, it does not make them weak by any means. Sure it's kinda harem-like for them to all to fall for Kirito, but he's the stuff of legends as far as SAO is concerned. It's not uncommon for females to fall for the same guy and in this case, that guy is Kirito.

The plot lacking? Nobody has exactly pinpointed where the plot itself was lacking. This is a typical shounen hero's journey and it follows those ideals through quite well.

So far, it seems like many people are just chiming in with their hate without supporting their claim. I want people to bring forth their issues with the series and discuss them. I don't mind talking things out, but I do hate blanket statements like "the plot is like something a kid would write".

Either way, people are free to have their opinions. I just feel bad for all these anime hipster wannabes, they miss out on some good stuff cuz they want to be cool and trendy. They hate on sword art and then go watch attack on titan and rave how amazing it is. :x
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It starts strong, but after 3 episodes, everything starts to become undone.

Its cardinal sin is that it is inspired by the concept of an mmo, but it can't seem to handle more than 2 characters at a time.

SAO gives us a great social dynamic of people being forced to stake their real lives on an MMO as they are forced to live there. Kirito faces the envy-fueled prejudice as a beta-tester and the lead team forms to try to clear the game. THAT was interesting, but then Kirito goes off to collect girls and moe pets(i.e. Yui), while the rest off the world and characters (oh hai, Klein and Agil) are neglected.

Then, as if that weren't enough, all of the established world and what little peripheral cast it had is ditched in favor of fairies.The 2 characters are now Kirito and Leafa as they progress through an even sketchier world for which we get little lore and all of about 3 named characters.

Then, GGO becomes exclusively about Kirito and Sinon, and the whole plot revolves around 1 tournament/murder mystery. We see even less of this world, and iirc, Kirito and Sinon literally interact with NO ONE ELSE.

For borrowing so much from rpgs, SAO cannot be forgiven for failing the litmus test for a believable world: make something that feels like it is alive even when the player characters are not looking.
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The number one thing that pisses me off the most is that everyone and their grandmother refuses to admit it's a harem when Kirit-ur I mean Jesus gets it on with five other girls. Also, the ending to the first arc made the entire point of the story worthless. "Why did you do this?" "I dunno lol, I forgot!" It's one thing to have a antagonistic character devoid of reasoning for his evil plans, but to have a antagonist FORGET his reasoning is a complete crock.
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If I had made this thread I would have called it "Why are Sword Art Online haters so dedicated?" Because I get it, you've all gone through the anime multiple times with a fine toothed comb and spew every last thing you can possibly find that's wrong with it in an attempt to justify your hate. Trust me, everyone knows your reasons for why you hate it.

But why does this particular anime transcend all others? Why does the hate stay so strong even during times when it's not airing? And don't tell me "it's because of the fans!" Because that's total hogwash. Every anime has their fair share of exuberant fans, and particularly during the two year span of it not airing it was rarely ever discussed by them since most fans likely occupied their time with other series.

So what's really going on here? I often hear that people got disappointed because the anime didn't live up to expectations. Ok. So...rational people would just drop it and move on at the point right? Why spend the last two years ranting up a storm on the internet? It's one ****ing anime. If I flipped out and felt the need to crusade over "wasting my time" with watching every anime I've seen but didn't particularly love or even like all that much, I'd probably quit watching anime altogether because I'd have a full time job of hate-review blogging at that point.

My theory is that the majority of the hate is just recycled nonsense from people who have too much time on their hands and no original thoughts. The whole thing has basically become a meme at this point. I mean how many times have people thrown around obscure phrases like "OMG GARY STU" that doesn't relate to SAO? If they had I'm pretty sure every shonen protagonist ever created would be constantly accused of being one. But you don't see that because it's just another one of the regurgitated arguments all these sheep people love to use on a regular basis.

And before you get all upset with me over this post, ask yourself if you're even a part of the demographic of haters I'm referring to. This thread is designed to basically call out anyone who dislikes the anime to come here explain their reasons, and maybe you did just that. But have you also been stalking any topic you ever see that mentions SAO for the last two years just so you can let all those "obnoxious fans" know how terrible their taste in anime is? Those are the people I mainly take issue with. People who just can't let it go already.
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Light Novel of SAO is a lot better than some of the anime. I recommend you read the light novel. Also, freaking next main arc is gonna be near 48 episodes if they do it by books
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Light Novel of SAO is a lot better than some of the anime. I recommend you read the light novel. Also, freaking next main arc is gonna be near 48 episodes if they do it by books


I actually have a really hard time envisioning an animated version of Alicization. A-1 is all about upping the fanservice, and those novels have the least raw materials to work with on that end then any that have come out so far as it's basically a story of two dudes with very few female characters even present at all for a large amount of it.

Though I guess I felt there wasn't really a lot of sex appeal going on with GGO as well when I read it, but they just used a camera angle at Sinon's ass about 80% of the time....so I'd probably be surprised.
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I think it may have something to do with our expectations during the first episode. When you introduce to us a beautiful-looking show, and tell us there are people locked into a virtual rpg, and the only way out is to beat it...

...and then it's just about all these random girls that we are supposed to care about even though we don't know them? And everything is cliche and uninteresting (imo) and has nothing to do with fun video games and bosses and leveling up? Or anything to do with video games? And the "romance" isn't even interesting. I love a good love story. This isn't one lol. I'm a firm believer this show was not made by gamers, and could possibly be made by just a bunch of girls...who knows. I'm sure someone knows lol.

But yeah, I think it was just about the setup. If I had known what to expect, along with everyone else, we might have been able to prepare ourselves better.

You don't go into Clannad expecting a horror, and you shouldn't go into Sword Art Online hoping for anything to do with video games.
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I actually have a really hard time envisioning an animated version of Alicization. A-1 is all about upping the fanservice, and those novels have the least raw materials to work with on that end then any that have come out so far as it's basically a story of two dudes with very few female characters even present at all for a large amount of it.




That is unfortunate. I just started to enjoy this new arc because we finally got some ensemble interaction.
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