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Why do people hate on Sword Art Online?

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1) Sure, that implies he is good at games that he has spent hours upon hours on. Then how come in GGO literally the first thing he does is beat a minigame that no one has beaten before, in a game he has never played before? Also in SAO during an encounter with the red players during the episode when he gets the flower to bring that chick's pet back to life he has like 3 players simultaneously attacking him and he is just so OP that his health regen is greater than 3 people DPSing him, with no explanation?

2) I don't remember Kirito ever being a weak kid. Ever since episode 1 of SAO he was instantly this badass loner kid that that was gonna solo his way to the final boss (which leads me to believe the writer of SAO has never actually played an MMORPG, because first of all raiding with parties is how you actually level up and get gear, and no matter how OP and broken Kirito is it is pretty much impossible to solo a raid boss by yourself, which he effectively does).

3) "Nearly" been killed. He and Asuna died to Heathcliff in SAO, but that didn't matter, they were actually fine. The only other time Kirito (or any other main character, for that matter) came anywhere close to death was when the psycho rapist dude tried injecting Kirito with the poison shit or whatever it was, but it was literally blocked by plot armor. I was laughing so violently when Sinon lifted up Kirito's shirt and showed that it was blocked by this perfect little circle left on him from the hospital....so laughable. At no point are any of the main characters ever in any real danger, I assure you.



1) How about years of gaming experience? When fighting for your life for the good part of two years is a daily routine, you develop pretty good fighting reflexes and experience.

In games like this, numbers are everything. For Silica's side story in SAO arc, Kirito even says that his health regens faster than the bandits can damage him. Kirito is the game's #1 player and is easily 25 levels higher than all the bandits.

2) Kirito does start out weak. At first he is a lonely kid that tries to conquer the world by himself, but he gradually grows up and learns that you can't do everything by yourself.

Plus he's never soloed a raid boss. Ever.

3) He's killed versus Heathcliff, but the game ended and went into backup mode before the brain frying stage. Player's don't get fried immediately after death.

He's nearly killed in real life against Mr. Rapist. Kirito has no real life strength.

The little black thing blocked the poison cause Kirito literally bolted out of the hospital before removing everything from his body. Naturally, there will be one of the near his heart, since that is one of the main points where human activity is measured. Psycho injected the poison to his heart because that's where the poison is most effective.
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This guy brings up good points as to why Sword Art Online is a terrible anime.

http://youtu.be/3uON7ANNOi4

It's an hour long, but a good analysis.
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Chopsuey9444 wrote:

This guy brings up good points as to why Sword Art Online is a terrible anime.

http://youtu.be/3uON7ANNOi4

It's an hour long, but a good analysis.


I avoid all Youtube analyses for good reasons.
Most of them are just hate rants, really.
Never had good experiences with them.

Also seeing this:

An hour-long analysis of Sword Art Online, from the perspective of someone who very strongly dislikes it. Table of contents for easy navigation below.

pretty much means the review is pretty darn biased.
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Incest.


Not a con to me lol
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bobland wrote:


Chopsuey9444 wrote:

This guy brings up good points as to why Sword Art Online is a terrible anime.

http://youtu.be/3uON7ANNOi4

It's an hour long, but a good analysis.


I avoid all Youtube analyses for good reasons.
Most of them are just hate rants, really.
Never had good experiences with them.

Also seeing this:

An hour-long analysis of Sword Art Online, from the perspective of someone who very strongly dislikes it. Table of contents for easy navigation below.

pretty much means the review is pretty darn biased.


Sure, he hates the series, but if you do watch his analysis, he does bring up legitimate points over the show.
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1) How about years of gaming experience? When fighting for your life for the good part of two years is a daily routine, you develop pretty good fighting reflexes and experience.

In games like this, numbers are everything. For Silica's side story in SAO arc, Kirito even says that his health regens faster than the bandits can damage him. Kirito is the game's #1 player and is easily 25 levels higher than all the bandits.

2) Kirito does start out weak. At first he is a lonely kid that tries to conquer the world by himself, but he gradually grows up and learns that you can't do everything by yourself.

Plus he's never soloed a raid boss. Ever.

3) He's killed versus Heathcliff, but the game ended and went into backup mode before the brain frying stage. Player's don't get fried immediately after death.

He's nearly killed in real life against Mr. Rapist. Kirito has no real life strength.

The little black thing blocked the poison cause Kirito literally bolted out of the hospital before removing everything from his body. Naturally, there will be one of the near his heart, since that is one of the main points where human activity is measured. Psycho injected the poison to his heart because that's where the poison is most effective.


At this point I can't tell if you are trolling me or not.
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bobland wrote:

1) How about years of gaming experience? When fighting for your life for the good part of two years is a daily routine, you develop pretty good fighting reflexes and experience.

In games like this, numbers are everything. For Silica's side story in SAO arc, Kirito even says that his health regens faster than the bandits can damage him. Kirito is the game's #1 player and is easily 25 levels higher than all the bandits.

2) Kirito does start out weak. At first he is a lonely kid that tries to conquer the world by himself, but he gradually grows up and learns that you can't do everything by yourself.

Plus he's never soloed a raid boss. Ever.

3) He's killed versus Heathcliff, but the game ended and went into backup mode before the brain frying stage. Player's don't get fried immediately after death.

He's nearly killed in real life against Mr. Rapist. Kirito has no real life strength.

The little black thing blocked the poison cause Kirito literally bolted out of the hospital before removing everything from his body. Naturally, there will be one of the near his heart, since that is one of the main points where human activity is measured. Psycho injected the poison to his heart because that's where the poison is most effective.


At this point I can't tell if you are trolling me or not.


Not my problem if you can't read facts.

All I'm doing is bringing up valid counterpoints against your points.
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They be drinkin the haterade
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My only complaint is the fact that each season has the ability to be a beautiful, epic, in depth story that could be 120+ episodes then it get blown through where the characters are often not really built on aside from this is person 1 and they like this. The end. I can't knock it around to much I'm not an anime reviewer I just feel like, and you can call me on this, this Anime has the ability to be a 10 and due to a lot of things mostly minor turns itself into a 7. Will I still watch it? Yes, will I still keep up with it? Yes, will I still enjoy it? Yes, but do I think it has wasted potential? Yes.
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I think what made SAO so amazing at first is because they were able to capture the emotion of how people would actually felt if they were truly trapped in a game. It created this serious tone around the series and showed the desperation of the people that were there and how they were adapting to living in such world but at the same time you still know that it is a game. People who were too afraid to die became craftmen (Elizabeth and barkeeper dude) and open stores or helped lower levels to help the main front progress in the game or bully lower level zones. Some people lost touch with reality and started killing people for fun (Laughing Coffin). Lastly some people just gave up on everything and committed suicide. These were the episode that I believe what drew people to the series and what made it interesting. The praise this show get generally comes from the first 6 episode or so because that where it captures you and I think that what many people forget.

When it got to ALO, the world was just very uninteresting and instead they focused on the character. Many people will think this arc is more about Kirito looking for Asuna but I think It was more about how Kirito is adapting to real life and how he is moving on and his "sister" story. Kirito even said it himself something along the line of, "The game is truly not over until she is back." This was also evident in how he acted when playing ALO and how he took the game very seriously treating death like real death. She played a part in it but Kirito still feels trapped in the game and doesn't feel like it over until she also free. I think it is here where many people will agree that the show was at the weakest point because the initial reason why we watched this show was sort of gone. The seriousness of the show was gone (no death, not trapped) and there were many unexplained event that happened for no real reason almost felt retcon (Kirito pulled out 1 million gold? After only playing 3 day?).

My personal favorite episode in the series is when they were investigating the murder and found out that the husband killed the wife since she was able to adapt to the world but he wasn't. She was initially said to be a quiet person and passive person in the world and the husband was strong and controlling. But in the game, she was able to show great leader ship while he was not good enough at the game. Unable to accept this change, the ring was a catalyst that sparked his intention for murder. I personally wanted to see more of these sort of episode.

Why people hate SAO? I think it is because this show is truly over rated. This is a very anime newbie show and a great show to get people into anime and because of this many of those newer anime watcher will claim this a master piece because they are still new to the scene when SAO realistically spiral into a toilet when it hit the ALO arc.
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because it sucks
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I like SAO especialy the first arc then the second arc was a bit dissapointing but still watchable but SAO2 is just boring.
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I think it would be amazing if the side characters had their own development. Sinon, Asuna and Leafa have enough development, but what about Lizbeth? What about Silica (pretty good in the last episode)? And most importantly, are there no other guys in the anime? I wanna know more about Klein especially, as well as Agil. There is too much Kirito, and he is the worst (IMO) character in the series. I'd rather see more Heathcliff than Kirito, and at least Sugou was interesting, in a disgusting way.
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1) Sure, that implies he is good at games that he has spent hours upon hours on. Then how come in GGO literally the first thing he does is beat a minigame that no one has beaten before, in a game he has never played before? Also in SAO during an encounter with the red players during the episode when he gets the flower to bring that chick's pet back to life he has like 3 players simultaneously attacking him and he is just so OP that his health regen is greater than 3 people DPSing him, with no explanation?




Have you ever played an MMO? If you are at a much higher lvl then your enemy you can just sit there and regen any sort of enemy that attack you since they are so weak. Let me used a simple example for you since it does not seem you understand how this works. Let just say all character passively regenerate 2% HP per minute. If you are higher level, you have more HP therefore you will regenerate a lot more. You will probably have more defense and armor as well. When attack by someone lower level than you, you can just sit there and take it since you are higher level. It VERY common for MMO to be like this. In world of warcraft, RIFT, TERA, Guild Wars or any MMO you can probably think of you can probably just sit still and do what Kirito basically did if you are 10-20 level above your enemy even if they have 5+ people attacking you. Kirito explained it quiet clearly during that engagement. Of course this matter very little when fighting someone at the same level as you since everything will be pretty equal.

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