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CR Picks: Best Character 2014

Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

Nobodyofimportance wrote:


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I will admit Shinichi means well.
I can't discount intent, it does matter.
But he needs some serious counseling.


It would also be nice if he was not being hunted down like a wild animal for sport every waking second by many parasites simply because they can sense he's different.


He's not being hunted. He's hunting. Most of the Parasytes have been willing to leave him alone since his transformation. Before his transformation I believe he had three encounters where they attacked him for being different. One was a dog, One was incapable of rational thought, and the other was interested in extending it's own life using Migi as a right hand.


Those Parasytes were killing other humans. How many innocent people do you think died...
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Those Parasytes were killing other humans. How many innocent people do you think died...


So he should kill all the obvious parasytes and make it harder for an actual policing force with resources to secure a living target, thus enabling smarter parasytes to kill more people under the radar. If he wanted to help he could offer to, but no, migi won't let that happen will he.

I don't want to continue this.
Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

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h9902014 wrote:

Ahh...okay, fair enough, I get that.

Wow if the show had as much depth as your post, I might consider voting for them...unfortunately...the show doesn't.



If all of these contests taught me something it's that people perceive shows different ways or the ways they choose to see them.


Yea....this is true.
Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

Nobodyofimportance wrote:


h9902014 wrote:
Those Parasytes were killing other humans. How many innocent people do you think died...


So he should kill all the obvious parasytes and make it harder for an actual policing force with resources to secure a living target, thus enabling smarter parasytes to kill more people under the radar. If he wanted to help he could offer to, but no, migi won't let that happen will he.

I don't want to continue this.


Yea..exactly Migi..wont let him, and who the hell wants to get turned into a lab rat. You think they will just play nice with Migi....no, they wont. Resources....do you know how many cops it takes just to take one down. You really just refuse to understand how boxed in the kid is. He's doing the best he can. We don't have to continue its fine.
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Chitoge v Hiyori: A Comparison

Both are teenagers from wealthy families, they both mask their embarrassment with violence and harsh words, and they are both trying to adapt to a situation that's unfamiliar to them all the while dealing with growing feelings. They both sacrifice for their friends and try to help them out the best they can.

Beyond this surface level comparison I believe Chitoge starts to exceed Hiyori. Hiyori's character can roughly be divided into 4 blocks: Intro, Bishamon, Yukine and Rabo.

During the Intro and a problem that persist throughout the entire show we only learn superficial things about Hiyori, and we really never get to know how she interacts with people who aren't spirits aside from the occasional brush with her friends where she ends up talking about Yato the whole time. During the Bishamon arc she primarily just investigates Yato's past without too much focus on herself. During the Yukine Arc she becomes an conscious enabler for someone undergoing sever depression, and in the Rabo Arc she is reduced to merely a plot device, used to explore Yato's past further, as she begins to lose her memories.

Conversely Chitoge undergoes several subtle personality changes that permeate throughout the whole series and are much more relatable, I've talked about some in the thread. But her character tackles the issue of adapting to a new environment, making friends, reconciling the ideal school life with the inevitably shittier real version. She deals with dealing with overprotective guardians, and learning when to and when not to rely on other to conquer your fears. in addition to overcoming your romantic feelings to be there for a friend. and last and probably the most important, the fear of changing a group dynamic and the fear of rejection.

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Chitoge Kirisaki (Nisekoi) - So, I went 0 for 2 last round and that makes me want to sulk, but my buddy Chitoge won't let me do too much of that for too long. We're going to go eat some ice-cream and walk around town and have fun, and hey look! there's Raku. I'll work out some way to leave the two of them together (and damn he better not do some insensitive clod thing to get her all sad again; and I've been begging her to repress that violent streak but I'm not sure she's listening), and then...what the hell? That obnoxious Marika. Shit. Well I guess I'm going to go run intervention and suck up to her and somehow manage to keep her out of their hair.

Sorry Hiyori. I do like you but Chitoge has more of a presence really and anyway shouldn't you be off consoling Yato for having lost over in that other round?

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THESE ARE MY VOTES -- RD 4.2


Chitoge Kirisaki [Nisekoi] - This is a tough one. They can both act a bit tsundere at times, but I guess I like Chitoge's tsundere more. She is generally acts more cute, too, and she puts up with more (although Hiyori has that cat tail thing that will kill her and that random habit of dropping her body everywhere...) in the ever-dense Raku.

Sora [NGNL] - Games, dude. Obviously you've got to play games with the guy, considering he probably won't want to go anywhere with people. If he brings Jibril, it's only a plus... And if we get bored with video games, we'll just head to Disboard which has MORE games. It's perfect. There's some places there I'd love to check out.





Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

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h9902014 wrote:

Sometimes...I really hate all of you last minute voters.... ....kidding.

Yato character of the year though......ha.


You silly person


I think Ill change my stance on this...last minute voters were awesome today.
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Sorry Hiyori. I do like you but Chitoge has more of a presence really and anyway shouldn't you be off consoling Yato for having lost over in that other thread?


Wasn't that this thread?


It was. There aren't even guys in that other thread. Stupid braintypo. Fixed now.
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Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15
Man...some voters are going to pick Sora because they'd rather spend a day playing videogames than spending it with a cute girl. Ugh...UGH....AHHHH!

Nico support por favor.
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Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

h9902014 wrote:


Nobodyofimportance wrote:


h9902014 wrote:
Those Parasytes were killing other humans. How many innocent people do you think died...


So he should kill all the obvious parasytes and make it harder for an actual policing force with resources to secure a living target, thus enabling smarter parasytes to kill more people under the radar. If he wanted to help he could offer to, but no, migi won't let that happen will he.

I don't want to continue this.


Yea..exactly Migi..wont let him, and who the hell wants to get turned into a lab rat. You think they will just play nice with Migi....no, they wont. Resources....do you know how many cops it takes just to take one down. You really just refuse to understand how boxed in the kid is. He's doing the best he can. We don't have to continue its fine.


If Shinichi were willing to be completely selfless and altruistic, he'd find a way to turn himself in. That's what the ideal, perfect human would do. But that's a lot to ask of an average, flawed human such as Shinichi. He's supposed to mess up and 'wrong' but understandable choices. It's sort of the entire point of the story.
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I hope you take that into account with all the shots at Nico from people who haven't even seen the show lol. I talk bad about the other character sure, but at least i've seen the show to have factual reasoning for it.


I do. I just haven't seen Love Live and am not at all interested (unless there's a Madoka-esque twist...that would be sort of awesome).
The most I'd do in her favor would be to abstain from the round.
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No fucking way. Archer and Satsuki won!? Let me just take this time to.....




I'm glad people listened to me, remember:
Junketsu x GAR = Orgasmic


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Seem like people agreed.

Anyways, that's enough of my gloating. I also apologize for the late images. On I was in a hurry to leave and I posted them on our group chat, but the other admins didn't see it unfortunately. That's my bad everyone.
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Might you consider this, Chitoge and Raku go back anf forth saving each other, where as with Hiyori she is almost exclusively saved by Yato.

And even when Yato praises Hiyori for going to kazuma over Nora during the ablution, that wasn't really much of a decision, seeing as Kazuma had already talked to hiyori previously and told her to come to him

Essentially, everytime hiyori helps, she's just folowing instructions, be it to go to Kazuma or go to kofuku

Hiyori's overall impact on the plot outside of ablution isn't really that large

she doesn't really humanize Yato, she worsens the situation with Yukine, and then she is merely an empty shell during Rabo


Well, I feel your first point could be unfair to Hiyori, given Chitoge-Raku's fair and equal "save-eachother ratio" is much more possible and easier to be frequent in a non-action anime series, as opposed to Hiyori who plays the only human maincharacter in an action series filled with supernatural beings.

Albeit you can make the argument that Hiyori should have been made to fight in an action series to begin with rather than being like Fuu in Samurai Champloo (which isn't a bad thing, at least to me, as characters like Hiyori or Fuu at least aren't those "supposed to be an independent strong woman but ends up useless anyway" debacles. It certainly isn't better than a badass chick who's able to fight, though..)

And her worsening Yukine's issues wasn't really even her fault. She simply treated him as a human being and was born apparently hot, and at the time, having both of those around Yukine was bad. On his part, not her's.

Her being a shell during the Rabo Arc, I felt, was supposed to hit home run how important she is to Yato and Yukine, and in essence, us viewers. Again, I'm a HUGE p*$$* when it comes to emotional/sad anime/manga moments, so bear with my wussyness here: seeing moments like Yukine's bad drawings to try and fix her memories made me bawl my eyes over in tears. And I felt that's a testament to how fun a character she was throughout the series. It showed how important she was or feels despite, as you said, not doing much in the plot (in 2014).

Sure, she doesn't help all that much, but she has given Yato food or Yukine some nice place to sleep and all those little things, and adding the fact that she's a mere human who's tagging along with demigods and the like, that's a lot she returns back despite her position.

Regardless of my defenses here, you can (and have, in the next page I believe) make the argument that Chitoge deserves the vote more because her character DOES have more substance in 2014 and actually HAS her own subplot that conveniently develops her character. As opposed to Hiyori, who hasn't had any legitimate time to present her character development in 2014.

But bias IS a b!tch, and Kaneki's loss to Seo has changed my perspective on "choosing a character over the other entirely based on the importance of a character's traits and its developments." Nowadays I see reason in voting for a character entirely based on how much preference I have for a character and how he/she is handled in the anime genre he/she occupies. And it just so happens I enjoy action series, and reasonable damsels-in-distress within an action series.

Do I like those kinds of characters more than a romcom MC who's been a huge breath of fresh air on the tsundere trope? I'm not sure, not with all this Noragami bias being accumulated since Yato's loss.....

Who knows, maybe when my salt-level lowers, I'll be within more reason, and will see the errors in potentially voting Hiyori over Chitoge. I still have 22 hrs to decide. And I almost know that, at least within 2014, Chitoge is indeed an overall better character than Hiyori. Just, and I know you understand given you were a Yato voter, give me some time recovering from the Noragami tears.....
Posted 2/3/15 , edited 2/4/15

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If Shinichi were willing to be completely selfless and altruistic, he'd find a way to turn himself in. That's what the ideal, perfect human would do. But that's a lot to ask of an average, flawed human such as Shinichi. He's supposed to mess up and 'wrong' but understandable choices. It's sort of the entire point of the story.


You kinda sound like the dude in ep 14 bro.

I mean.....how many people do you think Migi would kill, had Shinichi tried something, I'm not saying he's completely selfless or altruistic(no he's flawed of course)...but to say he could just find a way to "turn himself in" is pretty difficult. Migi would undoubtedly kill someone.
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