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Posted 2/9/19 , edited 2/9/19

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Gurren Lagann is a show for popcorn and fun. It's a show for young males to enjoy a power fantasy and possibility. It's a show to define your idea of life and legacy if that's what you want. It's a show that keeps on giving.


And it's one of the shows I had in mind when I wrote this:


My point is this: a good anime might be nice to see continued, although how an anime ends can affect greatly how good it actually is. For a great anime it doesn't matter. Because when it's great, you carry it with you.


That comment was fun to write. Anyway, I'm constantly getting more out of Gurren Lagann, especially when I read philosophy: when I first saw it it reminded me of Kierkegaard and religious existentialism; eventually after a couple more times through it I realized there were multiple amusing links to Descartes. And finally I came up with that Rorty and pragmatism thing reading a book on postmodernism. I've been wanting to watch it again, as it's been a while. When I finally splurge and start that anime blog no one will ever read, Gurren Lagann will be the subject of the first essay.


All this led me to become quite distracted!

I really liked KEIJO!!!!!!!! !
It makes me think of the Will Ferrel movie Talladega Nights where it takes a sport (racing) that many people take really seriously and mocks it relentlessly. KEIJO!!!!!!!! does much the opposite and takes a truly absurd idea and turns it into a sport that is taken very seriously (and at least started out with a great style and animation.) Just one absurdity being such beautiful looking girls could never be the best at what they do or for long. I can't say it has changed my life, but it wonderfully stamps down the idea that art is only defined by the possibilities of your personal vision. Now I'm daydreaming about A Certain Scientific Hipwhip Girl. Which results in about all I'll see since, like DitF, it's a big disappointment of anime - just less offensive since it's at a capital level rather than production or concept in everyone's face. (Its source was canned before the anime began airing and like most anime, it was an elaborate advertisement - just this one came on the heels of downsizing irrelevant to potential success.)

What you say about say about great anime rings true to me. While I've still yet to see Rebellion, at this point I don't think I could begrudge it even if it disappointed me. As sequels, remakes, and "inspirational successors" go, the worst they can do is draw attention away from its predecessor as the original's legacy always remains so long as people follow it. I feel even parodies can kindle an IP if done respectfully enough. If Rebellion has received such decry, then in part that may illuminate the original further if criticism is performed well enough as a community. Personally, while I gain a greater appreciation for the show from other magi, I have a soft spot for Dayman.

I can tell I've at most scratched the surface of your read knowledge. Kierkegaard seems interesting. I can see possibility with TTGL's ideas of despair. Existentialism has tickled my fancy ever since meeting some friends with some really bizarre stories of their experiences and ideas met with them, but that's not my tale and as soon as people start talking about spiritual events others understandably tend to close their ears. Gurren Lagann is certainly a treasure. As in keeping with the themes of the show, it's not often you can experience a story that impacts you at many levels of maturity and understanding to take you from a simple and strong emotional experience to following an interest in the human condition and what may lie beyond. I'm reminded of an idea of love in which one facet of being in love with someone confers a recognition of their loved one, in life and others around them. Such a thought makes being in love with anime amusingly considerable and no doubt a testament to the love going into a show like Gurren Lagann.

If you ever start that blog, I'd be interested in direct notice. Who knows, we might even have PMs back by then.
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I love Rebellion, I think it's a justified deeper delve into Homura's character while also subverting the whole happily ever after ending. Throw in a little Descartes for flavor and you've got yourself a movie I never would've seen coming.

Also seems we still can't make new forum threads.
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Rebellion was a great movie. Homura did nothing wrong.


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Also seems we still can't make new forum threads.


You should go to the support section and make a threa- oh. Right...
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Insomnist wrote:

I love Rebellion, I think it's a justified deeper delve into Homura's character while also subverting the whole happily ever after ending. Throw in a little Descartes for flavor and you've got yourself a movie I never would've seen coming.

Also seems we still can't make new forum threads.


BUT WE CAN STILL BUMP THEM!

*Proceeds to bump my old imouto loving threads with impunity*
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Going to respond piecemeal because I'm busy:


Shenseiken wrote:

All this led me to become quite distracted!

I really liked KEIJO!!!!!!!! !
It makes me think of the Will Ferrel movie Talladega Nights where it takes a sport (racing) that many people take really seriously and mocks it relentlessly. KEIJO!!!!!!!! does much the opposite and takes a truly absurd idea and turns it into a sport that is taken very seriously (and at least started out with a great style and animation.) Just one absurdity being such beautiful looking girls could never be the best at what they do or for long. I can't say it has changed my life, but it wonderfully stamps down the idea that art is only defined by the possibilities of your personal vision. Now I'm daydreaming about A Certain Scientific Hipwhip Girl. Which results in about all I'll see since, like DitF, it's a big disappointment of anime - just less offensive since it's at a capital level rather than production or concept in everyone's face. (Its source was canned before the anime began airing and like most anime, it was an elaborate advertisement - just this one came on the heels of downsizing irrelevant to potential success.)


No one ever answered my question back then; Aoba really should have won that match:


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I have a fluid dynamics question:

Suppose a sphere is rotating rapidly above a body of water, and is close enough that the vortex the rotating sphere forms in the air would actually affect the surface of the water. My intuition is that the vortex would cause the air pressure at the surface of the water to decrease, so that the water level would rise below the rotating sphere.

Since it's been so scientifically accurate so far, it is obviously very important that KEIJO!!!!!!!! get its physics correct here.


I too really liked KEIJO!!!!!!!!. It was a real and serious sports anime, and it accomplished something interesting, unusual, and hilarious.
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Also seems we still can't make new forum threads.

You should go to the support section and make a threa- oh. Right...

There is a tech support e-mail address but... that would require effort...
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This is random, but I remember tripping over a Watamote doujin that I still think fondly of. It sped ahead a couple years to after Tomoko graduated, and had a stellar sweet love story for her. I don't know enough about Watamote to recognize the person she ended up going out with, and I didn't even realize it was about Watamote at first since everyone was older and didn't look the same. But it was such a great fanfic to trip over and it still makes me happy to think about it.


Hopefully she got counseling. Though lay diagnosis is usually a bad practice, it's hard to watch (or read) WataMote without concluding that she has some kind of mental/personality issues. It feels like there's something biological there that she's got to deal with.



Sayaka absolutely killed it in Madoka, her struggles felt the least abstract and most relatable to me. My favorite shot of the franchise is still when the camera was looking at Sakura and Sayaka through a stained glass window because there were so many poignant motifs being fired off in that shot even though it was barely paused on. I think I ended up writing a borderline essay on that frame for a tounrey a year or two ago, I completely forget the context for the tounrey though.


I have many screenshots of that scene (though they've got the Aniplex logo):



My favorite is when she walks out:





I've had the pieces of an essay in my head for a while, and some of them are even written out. In a few of my private messages here... I'd be able to reproduce the ideas no problem, but losing the words is a pain.
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auroraloose wrote:


Insomnist wrote:

This is random, but I remember tripping over a Watamote doujin that I still think fondly of. It sped ahead a couple years to after Tomoko graduated, and had a stellar sweet love story for her. I don't know enough about Watamote to recognize the person she ended up going out with, and I didn't even realize it was about Watamote at first since everyone was older and didn't look the same. But it was such a great fanfic to trip over and it still makes me happy to think about it.


Hopefully she got counseling. Though lay diagnosis is usually a bad practice, it's hard to watch (or read) WataMote without concluding that she has some kind of mental/personality issues. It feels like there's something biological there that she's got to deal with.


One of the reasons I myself enjoyed Watamote is that it is the complete antithesis to wish fulfillment and escapism by embracing a much-needed psychological realism.

I can only speak of myself, but Tomoko does seem to mirror many of the more typical mindsets of "loners", as her snide derision towards others is uncannily similar to my own. To explain my adolescent thought processes, this idea of some superiority helps us cope with our more gnawing anxiety towards our deficiencies.

Like Tomoko, my inadequacy was centered around peer acceptance. When some individuals do not get what they desire, they repeatedly fall back onto the "sour grapes" generalization. Tomoko tries so much to overcome her limitations, but when faced with rejection both perceived and real, she falls back into thinking "Hmph, I am too good to be with those idiots." The keyword here is repeatedly, as this is something that doesn't form overnight. It becomes an unconscious pattern of thinking without intervention or introspection. In order to alleviate that failing sense of self-esteem, many individuals will try to focus on their superiority, both by internal convincing themselves and external displaying it to others in what can only be called overcompensation.

With social ostracization, I responded by asserting my intelligence and intelligence quotient, denigrating others as being below my worth, and additionally trying to associate with those who I viewed within a similar pedigree. I can only gesture, but perhaps it was a way to claw back control over something I never quite had control over.

Tomoko, if anything, is possibly one of the most realistic displays of typical adolescence at its worst. In short, people can respond to any inadequacy with trying to "make up for it", and social isolation seems to be a case of "Well, I must be better than you if I cannot even associate with you all". Tomoko really does wish to be with others and have friends, yet remains unable to overcome her bashfulness, which leads her to the response of assuming cynical thoughts of what others must be like in order to remove doubts towards her own inadequacy. She obsesses with how others view her, so she tries to deny the opinions she thinks others have of her of any validity in a display of paranoia, registering as a sort of pre-narcissism.

Kohlberg once stated the 16 stage conflicts throughout a lifespan. While I disagree with it, I find that his theory regarding adolescent stage development as "Peer focused" to be slightly undeveloped. At this point, people are still struggling with their idea of their own autonomy, and the concept of their own powerlessness.

In terms of diagnosing Tomoko, I am unsure if she qualifies for a personality disorder. Those are a rather rare and contentious thing to diagnose but less so to treat. The general idea is that personality disorders are distressful thought patterns and beliefs constituting a person's identity. They are normally very serious and very difficult to treat, as the individual's paradigm has shifted to accommodate in such a way that they do not even know their dysunfction. (That, and some contest whether or not this is essentially putting a diagnosis towards people being an asshat.)

Regardless of what she has, counseling would do her good, as you said. She's not horribly atypical, I would like to say, but looking at myself....eh...

And I understand your pain regarding private messages. If only I have bothered to save all those messages people like you sent me. They're worth a second read. Damn it Crunchyroll, you couldn't even give me a warning.
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I want an Act-Age anime right now just to see the first time Kei is an extra on set in chapters 3-4.


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I have many screenshots of that scene (though they've got the Aniplex logo):


That's the one. I'm pretty weak at the whole spotting symbolism/motif game but that shot stuck out to me regardless.
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I want an Act-Age anime right now just to see the first time Kei is an extra on set in chapters 3-4.

Interestingly enough when I first tried the manga I didn't like it and thought that it wasn't going to really last.

Clearly I was wrong so I've been thinking about going back to it or just waiting for the eventual anime.
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Insomnist wrote:

I want an Act-Age anime right now just to see the first time Kei is an extra on set in chapters 3-4.

Interestingly enough when I first tried the manga I didn't like it and thought that it wasn't going to really last.

Clearly I was wrong so I've been thinking about going back to it or just waiting for the eventual anime.

I'm only a few chapters in, but something definitely feels off about it. If I'm reading Runway de Waratte, or watching Welcome to the Ballroom, I feel like they're expressing something true just with high drama. I don't get that from Act-Age, it feels like a completely hammy unrealistic fantasy about what somebody on the outside imagines acting and film is like.

Not that I know anything about it either to judge, but that's how it feels.

But Kei is fascinating by herself so as long as they don't sabotage her I can see where it got its legs.

Edit:

The characters carried the movie arc. The theater arc seems more legit. Also it brought freckles so I've been bought...
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I feel someone guilty for having a waifu outside of Japanese animation, but uh...



Does this make me a traitor to anime? (I have a thing for blondes now, apparently. How concerning.

AND....a dentist appointment on Valentine's day. *Sighs*.
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Posted 2/11/19 , edited 2/11/19

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No one ever answered my question back then; Aoba really should have won that match


That part (If we are discussing the same one) was actually quite terrifying as it was hilarious. Conjuring the holy site of 40 disembodied asses behind one is both impressive in its parody as it beggars the question "Who asses do they belong too?", "How are they connected?" , and finally, "Is there a breast version of this?"

I am curious enough what would happen if someone were to poke them.

And yes, I always wished to use the line "Disembodied asses".
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An anime of Act-Age would be interesting on a meta level. It would probably be one cour and adapt the Death Island movie arc, which is the worst part of the manga (and thus the part that would most benefit from an adaptation--and, on a meta level, would be the most appropriate to adapt for the screen). And it would stop before the stage production arc, which is on a whole different level, and would stand to lose the most from being adapted (unless a genius handled it).

So a one-cour anime that could lead into the stage production arc would be the best of both worlds. But they should do enough at the end to tease the play and all the new characters to keep people hooked, it's like an all new cast and story.

Anyhoo, caught up to the current chapter, I'd recommend it.
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