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Charges dropped against confessed murderer
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Posted 7/11/17 , edited 7/11/17

Kelgair wrote:



Ahh, you're right, I should've said "convicted". Still true....



You're echoing a defense medical report, attributing his death to his physical condition(He was overweight). Which is that he died cause he suffered a heart attack! What could possibly have caused that heart attack? Well from the Defense you'll never know.

From the first medical report, he died cause he was strangulated. Someone chocked him for dozens of seconds, and he died.

"You're honor! I gripped his neck for awhile and he eventually passed out, how was I supposed to know he died from that?" Good defense sir, good defense. Again, easy manslaughter.



I'm sorry NO, JUST NO. This wasn't an accident or misfortune. A Tutor got in a fight with his pupil about money and the pupil choked the life out of him. This is by no manner a lawful act or done by lawful means. STOP IT. The SA is full of shit. what part of that was "sufficient provocation"??


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I would think the corpse and confession themselves would be plenty to convict.


And you would be wrong. The problem with a jury of your peers is most of them tend to be idiots.

Also, it's Florida.



Unfortunately you're right on the last few of these marks.

"Florida man..." is both amusing and terrifying...

(edit: Manner, heh)


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Kelgair wrote:
You're echoing a defense medical report, attributing his death to his physical condition(He was overweight). Which is that he died cause he suffered a heart attack! What could possibly have caused that heart attack? Well from the Defense you'll never know.

From the first medical report, he died cause he was strangulated. Someone chocked him for dozens of seconds, and he died.

"You're honor! I gripped his neck for awhile and he eventually passed out, how was I supposed to know he died from that?" Good defense sir, good defense. Again, easy manslaughter.


I'm echo'ing the SA. I'm not denying he was choked nor am I saying the guy is innocent, I'm saying it'd be an uphill battle with what the prosecution has if they brought it to trial.

On a side note, the term "strangulation" might be giving the wrong mental image here as that tends to invoke hands on neck. It was actually an arm around the neck from behind in this case. The medical term might be strangulation but choke or choke hold would be more accurate in terms of visualizing what happened.



Kelgair wrote:I'm sorry NO, JUST NO. This wasn't an accident or misfortune. A Tutor got in a fight with his pupil about money and the pupil choked the life out of him. This is by no manner a lawful act or done by lawful means. STOP IT. The SA is full of shit. what part of that was "sufficient provocation"??


I did not say it was an accident or misfortune. I bolded the relevant part about provocation. The defense can argue provocation based on the history of tension between the two men, the fact that the victim was the one who started the verbal portion of the fight inside the restaurant and started throwing racial slurs. Thus the SA isn't "full of shit" they are stating they would have difficulty overcoming the legal bar set by Florida law.

Now, you can certainly blame the SA for fucking up the witness deposition and letting a key witness vanish on them. But as is often the case with this stuff, what it seems should be done from a moral perspective doesn't mean it's possible from a legal perspective.





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