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trump ends cia program funding syrian rebels
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Considering some of the atrocities they committed I'm not particularly bothered by this. A resolution in that conflict will also stop the flood of migrants making that dangerous journey across the Mediterranean. Suck that brutal dictator will win the war but there are other was to remove a tyrant.
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Considering some of the atrocities they committed I'm not particularly bothered by this. A resolution in that conflict will also stop the flood of migrants making that dangerous journey across the Mediterranean. Suck that brutal dictator will win the war but there are other was to remove a tyrant.


Two brutal dictators will win. Not one.
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If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.
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If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


its already destabilized
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I regret to inform you that Trump already signed off on the DoD continuing to fund Kurdish rebels in Syria 2 months ago before he had a chance to chat with Putin-senpai. -.-




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Considering some of the atrocities they committed I'm not particularly bothered by this. A resolution in that conflict will also stop the flood of migrants making that dangerous journey across the Mediterranean. Suck that brutal dictator will win the war but there are other was to remove a tyrant.


How do you figure the brutal dictator winning is going to make people stop fleeing Syria?

Assad is ISIS on an industrial scale. He's tortured, beaten and starved to death some odd 60,000 people so far.

But I'm sure he'll chill once he gets control of the entire country back. ><
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mxdan wrote:

If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


its already destabilized


It's all relative though.
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mxdan wrote:

If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


its already destabilized


Russian support of Assad is what made the conflict last long enough for IS to move into Syria and install itself... Notwithstanding millions of Syrians being forced out of their country.

Regardless of the circumstances from here on out it's been a catastrophe.
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redokami wrote:


mxdan wrote:

If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


its already destabilized


Russian support of Assad is what made the conflict last long enough for IS to move into Syria and install itself... Notwithstanding millions of Syrians being forced out of their country.

Regardless of the circumstances from here on out it's been a catastrophe.


and we backhandedly created isis in the absence of no al quada , queda? Qaida? fuck


the whole thing is a mess, why throw money at some "Rebels"



whenever we throw money at foreign shit it goes wrong, groups, propping up leaders, etc


then again, its on purpose
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and we backhandedly created isis in the absence of no al quada , queda? Qaida? fuck

the whole thing is a mess, why throw money at some "Rebels"

whenever we throw money at foreign shit it goes wrong, groups, propping up leaders, etc

then again, its on purpose


While I do agree the US needs to stop sticking its dick in Middle East all the time; At this point its been in there to long to just yank it out and not expect to have to pay child support.

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redokami wrote:


21stCenturyGemini wrote:


redokami wrote:


mxdan wrote:

If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


its already destabilized


Russian support of Assad is what made the conflict last long enough for IS to move into Syria and install itself... Notwithstanding millions of Syrians being forced out of their country.

Regardless of the circumstances from here on out it's been a catastrophe.


and we backhandedly created isis in the absence of no al quada , queda? Qaida? fuck


the whole thing is a mess, why throw money at some "Rebels"



whenever we throw money at foreign shit it goes wrong, groups, propping up leaders, etc


then again, its on purpose

Its always good to read that at least someone understands something of this situation around here.

People dont remember what happened with AQ in Iraq, with abu musab al zarqawi becoming the leader and not getting along with the handlers and eventually there was an ideological split and *poof* we heard nothing further of AQ in Iraq, then a year or two goes by and all of a sudden, new and improved bogeyman AQ 2.0 in the form of ISIS springs up.

Al Zarqawi was steeped in actual Islam and was not agreeable to the willy nilly chopping of heads, nor was he agreeable to getting in front of a green screen to fake the whole setup.




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Anyone asserting that Assad = ISIS has been watching CNN and has done no actual investigation of anything that actually happened there.

As I stated previously, this is geopolitics 101, Syria is the chokepoint for all Middle Eastern oilgas pipelines to run into Europe. Why else does anyone think the USA, Nato, Israel, have been funding "moderate rebels" that are shown to be the patsy pawn footsoldiers of "ISIS" and trying to say Assad is some brutal dictator?

If you want real news about what goes on over there, you cant trust moutpieces owned by the central banks, because it is simply in their interest to crush Russia, and the numero uno way to beat the hell out of Russia is to hit them in the pocket very hard on their main export money maker.

Or maybe someone else has a rational explanation for why ISIS has NEVER attacked Israel?

And not only that, oil stolen by ISIS has been purchased on the black market by Israel, ISIS "soldiers" many have been treated in Israeli hospitals!


ISIS only came into existence when the ciamossad lost control of AQ and AQ wasnt doing what they wanted them to, and wow wouldnt ya know it, we havent heard jack CRAP from AQ since then.
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redokami wrote:
and we backhandedly created isis in the absence of no al quada , queda? Qaida? fuck

the whole thing is a mess, why throw money at some "Rebels"

whenever we throw money at foreign shit it goes wrong, groups, propping up leaders, etc

then again, its on purpose


While I do agree the US needs to stop sticking its dick in Middle East all the time; At this point its been in there to long to just yank it out and not expect to have to pay child support.



does the saying "don't put your dick in the crazy" work in this situation the dick being your countries support.
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Its about time. Those rebels we funded became ISIS and took our weapons to butcher the area.


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If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


We currently have ISIS in control of part of the area, Assad in control of another, a random mix of rebel groups in control of the others. ISIS you know what they are doing to people. The rebels are not as bad as ISIS but doing similar things. Assad is still an asshole.

Were already as civil war levels of destabilization so it can't really make it worse.
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Its about time. Those rebels we funded became ISIS and took our weapons to butcher the area.


mxdan wrote:

If anyone here can convince me that this won't destabilize the area then I'll support it. But I'm pretty doubtful.


We currently have ISIS in control of part of the area, Assad in control of another, a random mix of rebel groups in control of the others. ISIS you know what they are doing to people. The rebels are not as bad as ISIS but doing similar things. Assad is still an asshole.

Were already as civil war levels of destabilization so it can't really make it worse.


There are no moderate rebels. There are factions that dislike Assad and they are being used by the ciamossad to achieve central banking goals.

Or perhaps you missed the news of the Russian airstrike back last october or so that killed 30+ operatives of cia, mossad, and egyptian special forces when "ISIS" was targeted?

Of course you didnt see it, if you only pay attention to western news.

Why do you think there was so much of a push to have Russia inform us of where they plan on attacking? This one was done without advanced notice, and the global sword arm lost expensive operatives there.
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good something needed to get done.
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