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While I do agree the US needs to stop sticking its dick in Middle East all the time; At this point its been in there to long to just yank it out and not expect to have to pay child support.



I thought you were pro-abortion. The situation sucks. The US could withdraw support, which would likely either lead to Assad taking over again, or they continue fighting a proxy war with Russia. There is no obvious good way forward.
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runec wrote:

While I do agree the US needs to stop sticking its dick in Middle East all the time; At this point its been in there to long to just yank it out and not expect to have to pay child support.



I thought you were pro-abortion. The situation sucks. The US could withdraw support, which would likely either lead to Assad taking over again, or they continue fighting a proxy war with Russia. There is no obvious good way forward.


Another thing people need to get straight and understand, Assad is the legitimate and democratically elected leader of Syria. He actually has a pretty decent level of support there, amongst the people who actually matter - the citizens of Syria.
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Another thing people need to get straight and understand, Assad is the legitimate and democratically elected leader of Syria. He actually has a pretty decent level of support there, amongst the people who actually matter - the citizens of Syria.


Assad has committed numerous atrocities against his own people, including use of globally banned chemical weapons. The case could be made in the global community that he needs to go. The problem is his backing from Russia. Otherwise he might already be gone.
Posted 7/20/17 , edited 7/20/17

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jolietjoe wrote:

Another thing people need to get straight and understand, Assad is the legitimate and democratically elected leader of Syria. He actually has a pretty decent level of support there, amongst the people who actually matter - the citizens of Syria.


Assad has committed numerous atrocities against his own people, including use of globally banned chemical weapons. The case could be made in the global community that he needs to go. The problem is his backing from Russia. Otherwise he might already be gone.


I assume you're talking about the chemical weapons that were handed to rebels (by whom? I will give you a guess!) and there was an attempt to pin the whole matter on Assad, which failed.

Nice try, CNN
Posted 7/20/17 , edited 7/20/17

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Two brutal dictators will win. Not one.


Better a dictator in power than another terror group to bite us in the ass a few years down the road.
Have you seen the video of these 'rebels' sawing a 12 year old boy's head off? Or pictures of their slave markets?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/08/syrias-warlords-were-nobodies-now-they-are-rich-men-with-sex-slaves/



Syria’s agony will go on, not just because of big power politics but, more importantly, because so many rebel leaders had nothing — were nothing — before the war and now have everything. One brigade commander made bricks in the sun for a living and now drives a BMW. Two Yazidi sisters told me that the ‘emir’ who bought them as sex slaves had been the village odd job man, who used to beg their father for work. The emir who captured the Kurdish journalist may have ended up in jail, but there are many more like him, for whom war is a business. And business is good.

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Yes. I suppose now instead we play Russian roulette...

... And hope that a Russian puppet state in the middle-east lead by a brutal murder and hosting strategic Russian bases doesn't come back to bite us in the future.
Posted 7/20/17 , edited 7/20/17

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Yes. I suppose now instead we play Russian roulette...

... And hope that a Russian puppet state in the middle-east lead by a brutal murder and hosting strategic Russian bases doesn't come back to bite us in the future.


lol....go ahead, enumerate what you think are "russian puppet states" and then enumerate US-Nato puppet states. Then go back and review what our agreements have been with Russia over the years and how we promised to stay out of Ukraine and not put US-Nato strategic bases all over russia's borders...
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Considering some of the atrocities they committed I'm not particularly bothered by this. A resolution in that conflict will also stop the flood of migrants making that dangerous journey across the Mediterranean. Suck that brutal dictator will win the war but there are other was to remove a tyrant.


Two brutal dictators will win. Not one.


There are two in syria?
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Yeah all the country, like Libya, Egypt and Irak, where we get rid of their dictator turn out so great, so damn great, they become paradise on earth. Hear me I hate dictatorial state but sometime it's better than the other options...If Assad fall who or what will rule Syria?
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Good. Nothing we do would help Syria become more stable anyway. An overthrown dictator would probably just be replaced by another dictator.
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Yeah all the country, like Libya, Egypt and Irak, where we get rid of their dictator turn out so great, so damn great, they become paradise on earth. Hear me I hate dictatorial state but sometime it's better than the other options...If Assad fall who or what will rule Syria?


*cough* look up the oded yinon plan *cough*
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While I do agree the US needs to stop sticking its dick in Middle East all the time; At this point its been in there to long to just yank it out and not expect to have to pay child support.


"I have no real opinion, every action is bad, I'm just a crude enemy of the free world," is all this guy ever says.
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"I have no real opinion, every action is bad, I'm just a crude enemy of the free world," is all this guy ever says.


My opinion, since you failed to unravel it, was that yes the US needs to stop meddling so much in the Middle East. But its already so involved in the current mess it can't just walk away from it.

That you do not like nor understand my opinion does not make me an "enemy of the free world".
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runec wrote:


Kavalion wrote:
"I have no real opinion, every action is bad, I'm just a crude enemy of the free world," is all this guy ever says.


My opinion, since you failed to unravel it, was that yes the US needs to stop meddling so much in the Middle East. But its already so involved in the current mess it can't just walk away from it.

That you do not like nor understand my opinion does not make me an "enemy of the free world".


what you were saying was simple to understand. that dude was just being a prick or literally cant read
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what you were saying was simple to understand. that dude was just being a prick or literally cant read


Careful, or you to will become an enemy of the free world. Then we'll have to form some sort of nefarious sounding organization and look into putting a down payment on an island volcano lair. I don't know about you but I can't afford the mortgage on an island volcano lair.
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