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Post Reply What does American animation lack compared to anime? (serious question)
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Posted 8/10/17 , edited 8/11/17
I think many of the top tier animations from studios like Disney and Pixar tend to outclass most TV length anime, alongside my desire to point out various shows with a age rating for 10 year old children that nearly anyone of any age can enjoy. In fact, some require enough understanding to appreciate it. To an extent, I am cherry picking; though I feel disturbed when people, particularly those not Japanese, but Americans looking through tinted lens, praise anime as being the pinnacle of maturity. I believe most anime are just as juvenile in contrast, whether or not they do show bare breasts or panty shots. In fact, I would say it is the presence of these adult appropriate things that make it juvenile, and more suited for young teenagers than thinking adults.

It is just another media of a culture with its own hackneyed tropes. Watch anime enough and you will likely be more willing to accept anime as a medium of no more or less inherent quality than Western Animation, or blindly accepting its display of gore as a sign of maturity.

I rather have a show that is safe to watch but is written with enough care, such as the DC animated Universe or Avatar, then anime like Akame Ga Kill and Elfen Lied being praised as having depth, when it is entirely devoid of it.

I mean, a pedophile clown by the name of Champ rapes to death the daughter of a deceased character on top of said character's grave, while her mother is suffering a similar fate not 3 feet away.

It is brutal and most certainly not for children, but it aims for a juvenile mindsets with its guise of depth that will likely attract said age range as well. Honestly?

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Posted 8/11/17 , edited 8/11/17

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The story in American cartoons seem to be less consistent, less relatable to the audience, and less original. I also suspect that the competition on American cartoon industries is rigged by a few large corporation and corrupted government officers but more investigation is needed to comfirm this.


That's one of the more ridiculous things I have read lately.

I think the problem is less than the American television industry is incapable of making good story-arc, mature-content series, and more that the American television industry actually has the budget, sufficient live-action special effects experience, and adequate supply of experienced and talented live-action actors to just focus on making those kind of series in live-action, rather than focusing (near) exclusively on animation for all genres covering all audience demographics.

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Posted 8/11/17 , edited 8/11/17
One thing; art style and humour.
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I'll be honest I think we kinda downgraded our art style. We used to be highly detailed now we still kinda are but things seem a little too simplified. Don't get me wrong, we churn out pretty cute little toons it's just... I miss the Batman and Spider-Man animation style. We had our own brand of art style and we have the tech to improve that old art style tenfold. But now it seems we are leaning to sorta mirror Eastern Animation and that's all well and good but... we had a good thing, we coulda kept at it atleast. As for the difference I'd say Anime has reached a level of detail that western art isnt really trying to achieve but could have if we kept up with our original art style.
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The animation itself is fine, what it is lacking is genre variety. We only do cartoons and super heros and that is about it.
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Posted 8/11/17 , edited 8/11/17
Hmmm...........

quality?
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DrunkKanti wrote:

One of the things I'm glad western animation lacks in comparison with anime is the sexualizing of child characters and the constant use of unnecessary panty shots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja68qSFBPMQ
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I guess i see western cartoons as mostly either for little kids, or being like family movies or all being very similar when they are more for an adult crowd. Like how Family guy and American dad and the Simpsons and etc are all fairly similar. Same sort of humour.
And South park of course has crap animation lol.

I agree with others that anime tends to have more emotion than western cartoons. Western cartoons are very emotional for kids but not so much for older crowds, i dont think.

And yeah the cute and attractive girls of course is a big difference. It doesn't seem like it is a goal in western animation to draw the female characters in a way that people will be aroused by them of fall in love with them lol.
I mean they do draw them attractive or sexy i guess but it's not as sexualized, not as perverted.

Dunno i guess i just find the Japanese art style more appealing and i find anime more emotional and funnier.

I used to feel the same way about JRPG's vs western ones but i switched to mostly western but i dont see that happening with cartoons.



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encrypted12345 wrote:


DrunkKanti wrote:

One of the things I'm glad western animation lacks in comparison with anime is the sexualizing of child characters and the constant use of unnecessary panty shots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja68qSFBPMQ

And if that was an anime, every time they shook their ass they'd be flashing their panties at us.
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Japanese take their anime more seriously and therefore the effort and money put up for it often speaks for itself. It's not just entertainment for kids.

The biggest thing for me though would have to be the voice acting. I'm not sure why, but the only good voice-acting in the U.S. seem to be owned by Disney and/or the video game industry. I don't even bother watching the English versions of shows anymore.
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Posted 8/11/17 , edited 8/12/17
American animation was in it's prime a few decades ago.

The Brave Little Toaster, for example, had heart, and was created in a time period where animation was much, much, much more difficult.

Disney had a lot of light-hearted cartoons, Looney Toons were more targeted for those coming of age with risque jokes thrown in for the adults, and you had many more cartoons such as comic book themed ones, Pop-eye the Sailor, WB animation, etc that were also entertaining to the adult audience.

The problem with American animation now is that it is mainly tuned towards either being very kid friendly or being mature rated.
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Generally speaking, American animated shows are either more cartoony, and lack in emotion-evoking scenes/plot development. Even though anime does have some interesting cartoony aspects - consider neon pink or blue hair and oversized eyes, it seems realistic yet also animated. American animation in comparison doesn't seem to have changed much in decades, just more detailed.
Also consider the shape of a person from the original Superman cartoons to the latest Young Justice - same shape but just more detailed. Additionally another noted point was lack of plot/character development. Note Young Justice again, the characters didn't change much at all, and even though there were some romantic moments it didn't evoke the emotion that the same romantic scenes in an anime would evoke.

It basically boils down to animation design not changing much and little plot/character developments, in my opinion anyway.
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Posted 8/12/17 , edited 8/12/17
I think it's the voice acting.

Due to high recommendations from friends, I'm watching Voltron on Netflix right now (don't judge too hard), and sometimes I take a break to scroll through 4chan or make some pizza rolls while still listening to it, and there's just something...contrived about it. Lance's VA is the same guy that did Finn in Adventure Time, and he seems to be the only one having fun with it. I mean, there's got to be a reason why Trey Stone and Matt Parker voice nearly all the characters in South Park, or why Seth McFarlane does the same with Family Guy, or Justin Roiland with Rick and Morty; I don't think there's much of a market for American VAs. It's slim pickin's over here and I think most of these creators went into it prepared to voice at least some of the cast.

Whereas in Japan, it seems (to me, anyway, based on a manga I can't remember the name of that's entirely about voice acting) to be more of an actually established career choice. I have done no research on this, so I could be completely wrong - I'm likely wrong - but I've certainly never heard of a college or school or even a class for voice acting here in America.
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Posted 8/12/17 , edited 8/13/17
Although I don't think american animation is bad, I can think of a few things it is lacking in compared to anime.

Being:
-Humanism (Characters don't look human.)
-Character depth (Characters are mostly just archetypes with no real depth.)
-Opening sequences (This can be spun either way, but I prefer the way anime handles their openings compared to american animation.)
-Story (With the exception of Disney and very few cartoons, most american animations have god-awful stories.)
-Emotion (With both voice actors and the animation, characters don't seem to have much emotion. This is a bad example [Since it isn't an animation and the game was made in Japan.] but look at the english voice actors for Terra and Aqua in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, then compare them to their Japanese counterparts.)
-Fanbases (With the exception of shows like Rick and Morty and Steven Universe, not many american cartoons/animated movies have legitimate fanbases.)

On the other hand, anime is lacking a bit too compared to american animation, but I'd say it is quite a bit less.

Being:
-Framerate/animation (The framerate of anime is clearly lower than the vast majority of american animations.)
-Consistency (In one frame a character would be very detailed, then the next they look like a child drew them.)
-Acceptance (American animation is seen as acceptable to watch by pretty much everyone over in the west, but anime has a giant stigma against it and it suffers for that. Imagine if it didn't have the stigma. This may just be my bias talking but this is still something american animation has over anime. Even if that stigma only exists because of misunderstanding that animation isn't only for kids and that hentai is about less than 1 percent of all anime that exists.)
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