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If you extend kindness to those willing to use it against you you're a fool. If you extend tolerance you created by beating down said intolerant ideologies, in order to later tolerate them makes you fucking insane.
No place for that shit anywhere on the fucking planet, and the only war I'd deem worthy of fighting for. WW3 I'll gladly take the allies side again, enjoy the last moments in society we give you nazi-confederate conglomerators.
Our rights are a privilege, and will be taken away when necessary just like any extreme criminal we've ever treated. What's next saying that ISIS member speaking in public is free speech?
Fucking America's education system is shit.
Look at these people.
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SO if I choose to talk about rallying those to ISIS, and other terrorist cells you'd let me have public ground to speak on?

They do in France and the UK, so why not? Good honeypot I guess.

Maybe that's why ISIS terrorist attacks are much more common in Europe than they are in the US nowadays.
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“Overall everyone did a good job,” Boston Police Commissioner William Evans said. “99.9 percent of people were here for the right reason, and that’s to fight bigotry.” He said no officers or protesters were injured and there was no property damage.

I struggle to find much reason to be upset here.
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They've earned the label through their behavior.


Through the behavior of protesting bigotry sitting under a banner of "free speech" or for the dozenish few who resorted to violence?
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DrunkKanti wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:


GodOfFlash wrote:
SO if I choose to talk about rallying those to ISIS, and other terrorist cells you'd let me have public ground to speak on?

They do in France and the UK, so why not? Good honeypot I guess.

Maybe that's why ISIS terrorist attacks are much more common in Europe than they are in the US nowadays.


Posted 8/19/17 , edited 8/19/17

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Maybe that's why ISIS terrorist attacks are much more common in Europe than they are in the US nowadays.

Maybe. Or maybe its because they have unchecked migration from Islamist countries and warzones or something.
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qwueri wrote:

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They've earned the label through their behavior.

Through the behavior of protesting bigotry sitting under a banner of "free speech" or for the dozenish few who resorted to violence?


My claim is based on a well established pattern of behavior and you're talking about one event.

Let it go.
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The moral of this story is don't hold racist rallys and this could be avoided. I mean its just asking for trouble "because of Charlotesville"
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Maybe that's why ISIS terrorist attacks are much more common in Europe than they are in the US nowadays.

Maybe. Or maybe its because they have unchecked migration from Islamist countries and warzones or something.


I do believe they attack the European countries more because they think they are weaker in resolve than other countries, there may be more inherent racism? I'm not entirely sure but i am pretty sure that they are attacking them to inflame anti-Muslim sentiment to try and get more Muslims to go back home. To make people hate Muslims so they go back and join the war against the west. Seems like an overtly simple way to do things but it works.

Now, on to the topic of the forum...

A university in Toronto recently cancelled a "free speech" rally coming up in August. the key note speaker was Faith Goldy, a known supporter of far right and has appeared in a number of interviews despairing immigrants and empathizing with the nazi's from charlottesville. I feel like Charlottesville has stirred a pot in the entirety of North America.. we have the same problems as you guys down south and this is only the beginning.

I, however, am sort of happy it got cancelled and sorta sad it got cancelled. Stifle free speech is sad but the people who are looking to capitalize on Charlottesville for their own gain are deserving of equal treatment to the Charlottesville nazi's.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40956141

Holding a rally literally a week after Charlottesville is like holding an NRA convention a week after Columbine shooting... which they did... It seems unnecessary and borderline inflammatory. If they were smart about it and said "we are canceling/rescheduling our rally out of respect to the death and violence of Charlottesville" They would have been applauded and probably looked upon favorably by both sides. But no. They went ahead anyway.
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"Oh yeah we give them an outlet here to channel their rage running their mouth and that curbs violence."



The critical point missed by the masses is that hate speech isn't free speech ..
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Why would anyone protest a "free speech" rally?


lets i have a rally that says we should kill all New Orleans Saints fans. we should gouge their eyes out first and then pour beach down their ears.

this is what im peaching. this is what my rally is, but of course no modern city would allow that at all, so to get a permit, i name it "a cleaner world" rally. its about "making the world cleaner from pollution" at 1st it sounds like a climate change rally, but i mean hey. what i'm saying i believe will truly make the world a cleaner place.... by killing off Saints fans

you get it? they just named it "free speech" when its actually about Nazi propaganda. you gotta do a little research on what they're talking about. you just went off of face value of the name, and theres alot of guys on twitter doing the same
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^^^
Back in the 1960's, the left protested FOR free speech. Now the left is protesting AGAINST freedom of speech?
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^^^
Back in the 1960's, the left protested FOR free speech. Now the left is protesting AGAINST freedom of speech?


Hate speech isn't civil and shouldn't be confused with peaceful discourse. The right has a tendency to abuse and hide behind the first amendment at times.

Back in the 60's the times were a bit different also.
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^^^
Back in the 1960's, the left protested FOR free speech. Now the left is protesting AGAINST freedom of speech?


When the terrible timing strongly indicates support of hate speech, yes.
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Seems the protests were a resounding success!
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